[95122] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: FCC on wifi at hotel
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Marshall Eubanks)
Wed Feb 28 17:24:08 2007
In-Reply-To: <a193eb4d0702281401p7cb8d673q8a82bee394cbfa56@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: "Carl Karsten" <carl@personnelware.com>, nanog@merit.edu
From: Marshall Eubanks <tme@multicasttech.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:18:24 -0500
To: "Steve Meuse" <smeuse@gmail.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
On Feb 28, 2007, at 5:01 PM, Steve Meuse wrote:
>
> It's about revenue recovery. If you provide your own free wifi,
> they are losing potential business. It's usually part of the
> negotiation with the Hotel.
>
Yes, some Hotels will indeed want "revenue recovery" for this - they
will typically start at the
rental rate per person x the number of attendees x number of days,
which could be $ 10K USD per day or more for a 1000 person meeting.
You may or may not be able to negotiate it down; I think that in the
IETF experience the
"negotiate it down" factor has ranged from not at all to 100%.
But, since it is part of the contract, they can certainly enforce
whatever is agreed to.
Regards
Marshall
> -Steve
>
>
> On 2/28/07, Carl Karsten <carl@personnelware.com> wrote:
> me again.
>
> So wifi at pycon 07 was 'better than 06' witch I hear was a
> complete disaster.
> More on 07's coming soon.
>
> Now we are talking about wifi at pycon 08, which will be at a
> different hotel
> (Crown Plaza in Rosemont, IL) and the question came up: Can the
> hotel actively
> prevent us from using our own wifi?
>
> _maney: although - wasn't the hotel stuck on "our wifi or no wifi"
> at last report?
>
> CarlFK: only the FCC can restrict radio
>
> tpollari: it's their network and their power the FCC has no legal
> right to that.
> and no, you show me where they do. I'm not wasting my day with
> that tripe --
> the caselaw you're likely thinking of has to do with an airline and
> an airport
> and the airline's lounge, in which case they're paying for the
> power and paying
> for their bandwidth from a provider that's not the airport. We're not.
>
> I know that there are all sorts of factors, and just cuz the FCC
> says boo isn't
> the end of the story, but i don't even know what the FCC's position
> on this is.
> google gave me many hits, and after looking at 10 or so I decided
> to look
> elsewhere.
>
> Carl K
>
>
>
> --
>
> -Steve
