[94879] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: motivating security, was Re: Every incident...
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Alexander Harrowell)
Mon Feb 12 10:43:50 2007
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 15:34:02 +0000
From: "Alexander Harrowell" <a.harrowell@gmail.com>
To: "Edward Lewis" <Ed.Lewis@neustar.biz>
Cc: nanog <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <a0623090cc1f6330b0138@192.168.1.102>
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d Lewis <Ed.Lewis@neustar.biz> wrote:
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> I don't mean to say that the car owners or computer users are free
> from blame.  But holding a sentiment of just blaming users is not
> helpful.  OTOH, if there was something the operators could clearly do
> to stop this, someone would have suggested it by now.  (There are all
> them laws about snooping traffic, etc.)
>
> I thought I had a conclusion ... but I don't.
Sure. Demonising sufferers didn't stop the spread of AIDS, probably made it
worse (Saudi Arabia has one of the fastest growing HIV problems, they say).
But shouting at people to wear condoms/use a firewall has diminishing
returns. It's complicated.
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<br><div><span class="gmail_quote"><b class="gmail_sendername">d Lewis</b> <<a href="mailto:Ed.Lewis@neustar.biz">Ed.Lewis@neustar.biz</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>I don't mean to say that the car owners or computer users are free<br>from blame.  But holding a sentiment of just blaming users is not<br>helpful.  OTOH, if there was something the operators could clearly do<br>to stop this, someone would have suggested it by now.  (There are all
<br>them laws about snooping traffic, etc.)<br><br>I thought I had a conclusion ... but I don't.</blockquote><div><br>Sure. Demonising sufferers didn't stop the spread of AIDS, probably made it worse (Saudi Arabia has one of the fastest growing HIV problems, they say). But shouting at people to wear condoms/use a firewall has diminishing returns. It's complicated.
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