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Re: Best way to supply colo customer with specific provider

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Daniel Golding)
Fri Feb 2 15:58:05 2007

In-Reply-To: <45C06B21.7060201@velvet.org>
Cc: Steve Gibbard <scg@gibbard.org>, Rick Kunkel <kunkel@w-link.net>,
	nanog@merit.edu
From: Daniel Golding <dgolding@t1r.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 15:56:52 -0500
To: matthew zeier <mrz@velvet.org>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu



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On Jan 31, 2007, at 5:10 AM, matthew zeier wrote:

>
> Steve Gibbard wrote:
>> If you actually want to do this, you've got four choices:
>> - Policy route, as mentioned below.
>> - Get the customer their own connection to Cogent.
>> - Have a border router that only talks to Cogent and doesn't  
>> receive full
>>   routes from your core, and connect the customer directly to that.
>> - Do something involving route servers and switches outside your  
>> border
>>   routers, a-la-Equinix Direct.
>
> What about an MPLS VPN?

There are a variety of layer 2 solutions for this problem. One simple  
solution: Get Cogent to provide you two "sessions" via link layer  
identifiers - FR encaps  with separate DLCI on POS or two separate  
VLANs on Ethernet. Then use the L2 solution of your choice - GRE  
tunnel, Martini, whatever.

I also sort of like "get the customer their own connection to Cogent".

- Dan
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