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RE: [cacti-announce] Cacti 0.8.6j Released (fwd)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Andrew Kirch)
Wed Jan 24 14:11:54 2007
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:03:49 -0500
From: "Andrew Kirch" <AKirch@AllThingsIT.com>
To: "Ray Burkholder" <ray@oneunified.net>, <nanog@merit.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
Maybe this is overly na=EFve, but what about the ability to =
auto-magically import and search various vendor SNMP/WMI MIBs? I can =
think of 3 open source NMS that do a good job if you set up all 3 to =
monitor the network, but they all overlap and none of them really do a =
good job.
I also am using a closed-source NMS at work that does little more than =
minimal on-system agent monitoring of Windows/Linux based servers (disk =
space cpu memory utilization).
Good graphing, good alerts, good SNMP integration, granularity, and =
escalation, as well as pretty executive reports to keep PHB's happy (and =
that display the system as 5 9's uptime no matter how many times the =
mail server crashed!). =20
The reason why the open-source tools don't work is a lack of =
comprehensive coverage of Cisco, third party network kit, Linux and =
Windows. It just doesn't quite "do it all".=20
The reason why the closed-source tool didn't work (in my mind) is that =
it just doesn't have the flexibility to deal with anything other than =
what it's expecting. I've submitted a few dozen support tickets with =
them (and they will remain nameless) simply because of a lack of SNMP =
knowledge on their part. =20
Please forgive me for all above M$ specific references, I work in a MS =
and *IX environment.
Andrew D Kirch - All Things IT
Office: 317-755-0202
"si hoc legere scis nimium eruditiones habes."=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf =
Of
> Ray Burkholder
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 1:12 PM
> To: nanog@merit.edu
> Subject: RE: [cacti-announce] Cacti 0.8.6j Released (fwd)
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> I see a reference in the response to RTG. RTG's claim to fame looks =
like
> speed.
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> I've done some work with Cricket and have figured out a way to get at =
it's
> schema. I've been looking at mating Cricket' s 'getter and schema =
with
> Drraw and genDevConfig tools and putting a Mason based HTML wrapper =
around
> the whole thing so people can pick and choose the components of charts
> they
> want to see (per chart), (per page). And by filling in simple web =
forms,
> it
> would be easy to generate command lines for genDevConfig to go out and
> create the customized SNMP queries that are needed for Dial-Peers, =
Cisco's
> Quality of Service, etc.
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> Would anyone be interested in such a contraption?
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On
> > Behalf Of Paul Vixie
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 13:43
> > To: nanog@merit.edu
> > Subject: Re: [cacti-announce] Cacti 0.8.6j Released (fwd)
> >
> >
> > jml@packetpimp.org (Jason LeBlanc) writes:
> >
> > > After looking for 'the ideal' tool for many years, it still
> > amazes me
> > > that no one has built it. Bulk gets, scalable schema and
> > good portal/UI.
> > > RTG is better than MRTG, but the config/db/portal are still =
lacking.
> >
> > if funding were available, i know some developers we could
> > hire to build the ultimate scalable pluggable network F/L/OSS
> > management/monitoring system. if funding's not available
> > then we're depending on some combination of hobbiests (who've
> > usually got rent to pay, limiting their availability for this
> > work) and in-house toolmakers at network owners (who've
> > usually got other work to do, or who would be under pressure
> > to monetize/license/patent the results if That Much Money was
> > spent in ways that could otherwise directly benefit their
> > competitors.)
> >
> > "been there, done that, got the t-shirt." is there funding
> > available yet?
> > like, $5M over three years? spread out over 50 network
> > owners that's ~$3K a month. i don't see that happening in a
> > consolidation cycle like this one, but hope springs eternal.
> > "give randy and hank the money, they'll take care of this for
> > us once and for all."
> > --
> > Paul Vixie
> >
> > --
> > Scanned for viruses and dangerous content at
> > http://www.oneunified.net and is believed to be clean.
> >
> >
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