[94415] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Gian Constantine)
Sun Jan 21 18:37:48 2007
In-Reply-To: <45B390B0.5060306@he.iki.fi>
Cc: Bora Akyol <bora@broadcom.com>, nanog@merit.edu
From: Gian Constantine <constantinegi@corp.earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:36:51 -0500
To: Petri Helenius <pete@he.iki.fi>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
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Actually, I acknowledged the calculation mistake in a subsequent post.
Gian Anthony Constantine
Senior Network Design Engineer
Earthlink, Inc.
On Jan 21, 2007, at 11:11 AM, Petri Helenius wrote:
> Gian Constantine wrote:
>>
>> I agree with you. From a consumer standpoint, a trickle or off-
>> peak download model is the ideal low-impact solution to content
>> delivery. And absolutely, a 500GB drive would almost be overkill
>> on space for disposable content encoded in H.264. Excellent SD
>> (480i) content can be achieved at ~1200 to 1500kbps, resulting in
>> about a 1GB file for a 90 minute title. HD is almost out of the
>> question for internet download, given good 720p at ~5500kbps,
>> resulting in a 30GB file for a 90 minute title.
>>
> Kilobits, not bytes. So it's 3.7GB for 720p 90minutes at 5.5Mbps.
> Regularly transferred over the internet.
> Popular content in the size category 2-4GB has tens of thousands
> and in some cases hundreds of thousands of downloads from a single
> tracker. Saying it's "out of question" does not make it go away.
> But denial is usually the first phase anyway.
>
> Pete
>
>
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</DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Jan 21, 2007, at 11:11 AM, Petri Helenius =
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margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Gian Constantine wrote:</DIV> =
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margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I agree with you. =46rom a =
consumer standpoint, a trickle or off-peak download model is the ideal =
low-impact solution to content delivery. And absolutely, a 500GB drive =
would almost be overkill on space for disposable content encoded in =
H.264. Excellent SD (480i) content can be achieved at ~1200 to 1500kbps, =
resulting in about a 1GB file for a 90 minute title. HD is almost out of =
the question for internet download, given good 720p at ~5500kbps, =
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margin-left: 0px; ">Kilobits, not bytes. So it's 3.7GB for 720p =
90minutes at 5.5Mbps. Regularly transferred over the internet.</DIV><DIV =
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margin-left: 0px; ">Popular content in the size category 2-4GB has tens =
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