[94367] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Google wants to be your Internet
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Gadi Evron)
Sat Jan 20 20:48:10 2007
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:46:48 -0600 (CST)
From: Gadi Evron <ge@linuxbox.org>
To: Jeremy Chadwick <nanog@jdc.parodius.com>
Cc: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>,
Rodrick Brown <rodrick.brown@gmail.com>, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <20070121012825.GA23555@icarus.home.lan>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
<snip>
> ISPs probably don't have an interest in BT caching because of 1)
> cost of ownership, 2) legal concerns (if an ISP cached a publicly
> distributed copy of some pirated software, who's then responsible?),
They cache the web, which has the same chance of being illegal content.
<snip>
> The result of these items already been shown: BT encryption. I
> personally know of 3 individuals who have their client to use en-
> cryption only (disabling non-encrypted connection support). For
> security? Nope -- solely because their ISP uses a rate limiting
> device.
Yep. Users will find a way to maintain functionality.
> Bram Cohen's official statement is that using encryption to get
> around this "is silly" because "not many ISPs are implementing
> such devices" (maybe not *right now*, Bram, but in the next year
> or two, they likely will):
>
> http://bramcohen.livejournal.com/29886.html
I don't know of many user ISPs which don't implement them, you kidding?:)
<snip>
> So my question is this: how exactly do we (as administrators of
> systems or networks) get companies, managers, and even other
> administrators, to think differently about solving this?
>
> --
> | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com |
> | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ |
> | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA |
> | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB |
>
