[94092] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Marshall Eubanks)
Tue Jan 9 13:36:06 2007
In-Reply-To: <16A7A6FA-90F1-4D83-BAFC-BDCD9C7684F8@corp.earthlink.net>
Cc: Joe Abley <jabley@ca.afilias.info>,
Thomas Leavitt <thomas@thomasleavitt.org>, nanog@merit.edu
From: Marshall Eubanks <tme@multicasttech.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 13:21:38 -0500
To: Gian Constantine <constantinegi@corp.earthlink.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
On Jan 9, 2007, at 1:04 PM, Gian Constantine wrote:
> You are correct. Today, IP multicast is limited to a few small
> closed networks. If we ever migrate to IPv6, this would instantly
> change.
I am curious. Why do you think that ?
Regards
Marshall
> One of my previous assertions was the possibility of streaming
> video as the major motivator of IPv6 migration. Without it, video
> streaming to a large market, outside of multicasting in a closed
> network, is not scalable, and therefore, not feasible. Unicast
> streaming is a short-term bandwidth-hogging solution without a
> future at high take rates.
>
> Gian Anthony Constantine
> Senior Network Design Engineer
> Earthlink, Inc.
> Office: 404-748-6207
> Cell: 404-808-4651
> Internal Ext: x22007
> constantinegi@corp.earthlink.net
>
>
>
> On Jan 9, 2007, at 11:47 AM, Joe Abley wrote:
>
>>
>> On 9-Jan-2007, at 11:29, Gian Constantine wrote:
>>
>>> Those numbers are reasonably accurate for some networks at
>>> certain times. There is often a back and forth between BitTorrent
>>> and NNTP traffic. Many ISPs regulate BitTorrent traffic for this
>>> very reason. Massive increases in this type of traffic would not
>>> be looked upon favorably.
>>
>> The act of regulating p2p traffic is a bit like playing whack-a-
>> mole. At what point does it cost more to play that game than it
>> costs to build out to carry the traffic?
>>
>>> If you considered my previous posts, you would know I agree
>>> streaming is scary on a large scale, but unicast streaming is
>>> what I reference. Multicast streaming is the real solution.
>>> Ultimately, a global multicast network is the only way to deliver
>>> these services to a large market.
>>
>> The trouble with IP multicast is that it doesn't exist, in a wide-
>> scale, deployed, inter-provider sense.
>>
>>
>> Joe
>>
>
