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Re: Security of National Infrastructure

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Alexander Harrowell)
Sat Dec 30 05:17:49 2006

Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 10:16:51 +0000
From: "Alexander Harrowell" <a.harrowell@gmail.com>
To: "Chris L. Morrow" <christopher.morrow@verizonbusiness.com>
Cc: "Randy Bush" <randy@psg.com>, "The Shadow" <shadow@geek-guy.com>,
	nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0612300236380.271@marvin.argfrp.us.uu.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


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And then I can refuse to read anything that comes from the US. After all,
the pharma spam is clearly targeted on US residents. But what about all the
Alice.it/Telecom Italia spam? Killfile the whole country, clearly. And the
Chinese porno spam? And the Russian hackers?

I remember there used to be something called the Internet..

On 12/30/06, Chris L. Morrow <christopher.morrow@verizonbusiness.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, 29 Dec 2006, Randy Bush wrote:
> > > Why is it that every company out there allows connections through
> their
> > > firewalls to their web and mail infrastructure from countries that
> they
> > > don't even do business in. Shouldn't it be our default to only allow
> US
> > > based IP addresses and then allow others as needed? The only case I
> can
> > > think of would be traveling folks that need to VPN or something, which
> > > could be permitted in the Firewall, but WHY WIDE OPEN ACCESS? We still
> > > seem to be in the wild west, but no-one has the b@lls to be braven and
> > > block the unnecessary access.
> >
> > maybe because those godless communist sexually deviant vicious perverts
> > out there in the rest of the world are damned hard to differentiate from
> > the sexually deviant vicious perverts we have in our government?
> >
> > and there money is still good.  you may want to look at the balance of
> > trade and worry about the opposite flow.
>
> I think the better answer is: "your network your choices, my network my
> choices"
>

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And then I can refuse to read anything that comes from the US. After all, the pharma spam is clearly targeted on US residents. But what about all the <a href="http://Alice.it/Telecom">Alice.it/Telecom</a> Italia spam? Killfile the whole country, clearly. And the Chinese porno spam? And the Russian hackers? 
<br><br>I remember there used to be something called the Internet..<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 12/30/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Chris L. Morrow</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:christopher.morrow@verizonbusiness.com">
christopher.morrow@verizonbusiness.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006, Randy Bush wrote:
<br>&gt; &gt; Why is it that every company out there allows connections through their<br>&gt; &gt; firewalls to their web and mail infrastructure from countries that they<br>&gt; &gt; don&#39;t even do business in. Shouldn&#39;t it be our default to only allow US
<br>&gt; &gt; based IP addresses and then allow others as needed? The only case I can<br>&gt; &gt; think of would be traveling folks that need to VPN or something, which<br>&gt; &gt; could be permitted in the Firewall, but WHY WIDE OPEN ACCESS? We still
<br>&gt; &gt; seem to be in the wild west, but no-one has the b@lls to be braven and<br>&gt; &gt; block the unnecessary access.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; maybe because those godless communist sexually deviant vicious perverts<br>&gt; out there in the rest of the world are damned hard to differentiate from
<br>&gt; the sexually deviant vicious perverts we have in our government?<br>&gt;<br>&gt; and there money is still good.&nbsp;&nbsp;you may want to look at the balance of<br>&gt; trade and worry about the opposite flow.<br><br>I think the better answer is: &quot;your network your choices, my network my
<br>choices&quot;<br></blockquote></div><br>

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