[93788] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Home media servers, AUPs, and upstream bandwidth utilization.
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Alexander Harrowell)
Tue Dec 26 04:59:19 2006
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 09:57:46 +0000
From: "Alexander Harrowell" <a.harrowell@gmail.com>
To: "Roland Dobbins" <rdobbins@cisco.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <45AF3B5A-0AD9-4228-A6B5-70E545EC5FF9@cisco.com>
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"Mobile access to Orb or Slingbox does not include using your mobile as
a modem."
Not sure what that means. They certainly support mobile>usb>pc or datacard
use, so it's not that. Do they mean no Slingbox viewing on a pc attached to
a mobile? Why?
On 12/26/06, Roland Dobbins <rdobbins@cisco.com> wrote:
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> On Dec 25, 2006, at 3:05 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
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> > Kenjiro Cho, Kensuke Fukuda, Hiroshi Esaki, & Akira Kato.
> > "The Impact and Implications of the Growth in Residential
> > User-to-User Traffic."
> > SIGCOMM2006, pp207-218. Pisa, Italy. September 2006.
> > <http://www.iijlab.net/~kjc/papers/rbb-sigcomm2006.pdf>
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> I saw this paper when it came out Randy, thanks - I had several
> interrelated questions about TOS/AUP, and whether or not the presumed
> legality/illegality of a potentially popular non-infringing home
> media server vs. standard P2P applications (and the jaundiced view of
> them, rightly or wrongly) would affect what folks are doing or
> considering doing. The questions were also somewhat specific to
> North America, which is a substantially different market than the one
> described in this paper, and which may well evolve differently.
>
> This is a very interesting and thought-provoking paper, but it
> doesn't answer the questions I was asking, I'm sorry if that wasn't
> clear.
>
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> Roland Dobbins <rdobbins@cisco.com> // 408.527.6376 voice
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> All battles are perpetual.
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> -- Milton Friedman
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"Mobile access to Orb or Slingbox does not include using your mobile as<br>a modem."<br><br>Not sure what that means. They certainly support mobile>usb>pc or datacard use, so it's not that. Do they mean no Slingbox viewing on a pc attached to a mobile? Why?
<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 12/26/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Roland Dobbins</b> <<a href="mailto:rdobbins@cisco.com">rdobbins@cisco.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br><br>On Dec 25, 2006, at 3:05 PM, Randy Bush wrote:<br><br>> Kenjiro Cho, Kensuke Fukuda, Hiroshi Esaki, & Akira Kato.<br>> "The Impact and Implications of the Growth in Residential<br>> User-to-User Traffic."
<br>> SIGCOMM2006, pp207-218. Pisa, Italy. September 2006.<br>> <<a href="http://www.iijlab.net/~kjc/papers/rbb-sigcomm2006.pdf">http://www.iijlab.net/~kjc/papers/rbb-sigcomm2006.pdf</a>><br><br>I saw this paper when it came out Randy, thanks - I had several
<br>interrelated questions about TOS/AUP, and whether or not the presumed<br>legality/illegality of a potentially popular non-infringing home<br>media server vs. standard P2P applications (and the jaundiced view of<br>them, rightly or wrongly) would affect what folks are doing or
<br>considering doing. The questions were also somewhat specific to<br>North America, which is a substantially different market than the one<br>described in this paper, and which may well evolve differently.<br><br>This is a very interesting and thought-provoking paper, but it
<br>doesn't answer the questions I was asking, I'm sorry if that wasn't<br>clear.<br><br>-----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Roland Dobbins <<a href="mailto:rdobbins@cisco.com">
rdobbins@cisco.com</a>> // 408.527.6376 voice<br><br> All battles are perpetual.<br><br> -- Milton Friedman<br><br><br><br></blockquote></div><br>
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