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Re: links on the blink (fwd)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Alan Hannan)
Wed Nov 8 18:41:11 1995

From: Alan Hannan <alan@gi.net>
To: scharf@vix.com (Jerry Scharf)
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 17:23:52 -0600 (CST)
Cc: D.Mills@cs.ucl.ac.uk, michael@memra.com, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <9511082208.AA13641@gw.home.vix.com> from "Jerry Scharf" at Nov 8, 95 02:08:06 pm

] I think faster routers and bigger pipes will will not solve this problem. As a
] friend likes to say, that is necessary but not sufficient. HWB is right when
] he says that the network design is not coping. He left out tools, operations
 and customer support. I think there is some percentage of the service providers
] out there who don't care about the service they provide, but I believe (hope)
] that the mejority really do care.
      
  This whole mess reminds me of some projects I drove by in DC.
  Perhaps that is what our current Internet is:  Low rent housing w/
  mass density and all the problem associated therein.

  A wise man has a vision of the Internet much more hierarchaly laid
  out.  While I have reservations about the Monopoly of certain
  companies controlling the top layers of the Internet, I think it
  might be the only way to keep these cesspools of intelligence from
  corrupting the NAPs and corrupting my connection to anyone single
  homed through MAE-East.

  The update I just got on the MAE-E /"Sprint" problem seems rather 
  timely to the discussion.

  "
  We have hit the point where BGP processing on SprintLink
  routers can no longer survive moderate fall-overs.
  There is no fix for this, except:
        a/ people MUST withdraw as many prefixes as possible
        b/ the background route-flap MUST be reduced
 
  This is a global problem, and is not, and will not be
  confined to SprintLink.
 
  In short, as has been said on countless mailing-lists for
  more than a year: CIDRize or die.
  " says sean.
        
 -alan

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