[9326] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Who Are The Good Guys?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dorn Hetzel)
Wed May 14 17:30:04 1997
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 17:09:11 -0400
From: dorn@atl.eni.net (Dorn Hetzel)
To: geoffw@precipice.v-site.net (Geoff White)
Cc: dgs@us.net (David Stoddard), nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.95.970514123423.12200Y-100000@precipice.v-site.net>; from Geoff White on May 14, 1997 12:40:50 -0700
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Were I you, I would forward such a threat to some appropriate authorities.
Geoff White writes:
>
>
> On Tue, 13 May 1997, David Stoddard wrote:
>
> >
> > In the war against spam, its getting harder to figure out who
> > the good guys are. Last weekend, we had an incident where a server
> > called pure.fiber.net was relaying thousands of spam messages off
> > one of our mail servers. While we have filters in place to block
> > the obvious spammers (cyberpromo and others), we don't learn about
> > new ones until they cross the line (or we get them from Paul's
> > site at http://www.vix.com/spam -- thanks Paul!).
>
> <snip>
>
> Indeed things are getting strange, look at this letter I got in my mailbox
> this morning...
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >From www@www-01.io.com Wed May 14 00:27:05 1997
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> Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 02:19:46 -0500
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> From: The Dawn Patrol <hipcrime@post1.com>
> To: geoffw@v-site.net
> Reply-To: hipcrime@post1.com
> Errors-To: hipcrime@post1.com
> Sender: hipcrime@post1.com
> Subject: Your liability
> X-Mail-Gateway: Doug's WWW Mail Gateway 2.1.1
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>
> Geoff White,
>
> We have watched with some amusement the antics of your friend
> Robert, but we can long longer sit back passively and just
> watch as he continues to cause others harm and grief.
>
> In addition to his many other transgressions, he is now threatening
> people with hack attacks on their systems and with physical
> harm. This, and all of his many other crimes must end immediately.
>
> We are in now in the process of insuring that Robert's web presence
> will be revoked in all of the places he has infected with it. For
> the moment, we have decided to allow him to keep his E-mail accounts
> but we will quickly arrange for those also to be revoked if he
> insists on continuing to cause harm and annoyance to others on the
> net.
>
> More importantly however, we will henceforth be holding you and
> your v-site.net site responsible for and further crimes that he
> commits online against the people he thinks are his enemies. If
> there are any security-related incidents at any of the sites run
> by any of these people, we will find out about it, and you will
> then be forced to deal with similar unfortunate events at your
> own site. If necessary, we will also and likewise respond to
> any hacking activities by Robert with additional measures against
> vcinternet.
>
> We are certain that you have a significant investment in hardware
> and software at your site that you would not like to have placed
> in jeopardy, so it is in your interest now to contact your friend
> Robert and have him cease his threats and attacks on people on the
> Internet. We suggest that you use all means of persuasion at your
> disposal to do this, and that you do it immediately. No further
> warnings will be sent to you regarding this matter.
>
> The Dawn Patrol
>
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>
>
>
> Now Robert did have a Web account here months ago, he was canned for
> misusing my sendmail daemon with his fameous Java applet that let's
> you spam the net by surfing for <mailto> tags. He is long gone
> but now I have to deal with clueless vigilanties who are threatening
> to hack my systems because of someone long gone, hey is this the french
> revolution or what?
>
> In any event if it get to this I will toast anybody who trys to
> f*ck with my systems.
>
>
> geoffw
>
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