[93229] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: advise on network security report
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mike Callahan)
Wed Nov 1 15:11:38 2006
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 15:09:59 -0500
From: "Mike Callahan" <mcallahan@bullseyetelecom.net>
To: <nanog@merit.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
>I beg to differ, wither I aggregate my announcements does not impact =
the=20
>$50B charge identity theft puts on the US economy.
Perhaps a better start on impacting this would be for the credit card =
companies to pursue the people that abuse their cards/systems instead of =
just writing fraudulent purchases off as a loss and not pursuing them =
any further. I been through it myself and I know for a fact that at =
least one major cc company operates in this way. In this model there's =
nothing to discourage someone from using stolen numbers. Just my $.02
~M
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of
Rick Wesson
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 8:02 PM
To: Barry Greene (bgreene)
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: advise on network security report
Barry Greene (bgreene) wrote:
> Postings like this to NANOG will not have any impact. So if your goal =
is
> instigate action, posting is not going to work. The core data point is
> the weekly CIDR report. It only works if you have peers using the =
weekly
> list to apply peer pressure to the networks listed to act.=20
I beg to differ, wither I aggregate my announcements does not impact the =
$50B charge identity theft puts on the US economy.
would it assist if I associated a dollar value for each bot hosted, we=20
can estimate the number of credit cards stolen per bot and extrapolate=20
in to something with some zeros on it.
> Sharing summaries to communities like dshield, NSP-SEC, DA, SANs and
> other security mitigation communities along with a subscription web =
page
> that would allow an organization to get enough details to take action.
nsp-sec players still won't let us in their sand-box... but we will=20
share to the communities you have enumerated.
-rick
