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Re: Extreme Slowness

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (W. Kevin Hunt)
Fri Oct 27 08:38:15 2006

Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:18:51 -0500
From: "W. Kevin Hunt" <khunt@huntbrothers.com>
To: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <4296C3E5-8F9F-4B5F-8BA1-327C4E4D9C0F@digitalrage.org>
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We peer with UUnet and Telcove (now L3 and being "assimulated")
Latency across Telcove has been terrible (not just routers on the path 
with higher than norm latency, but latency all the way to the endpoint)
I have personal opinions as to why the latency is so bad, but until I 
can prove something I'd rather not say anything in public.
Some examples : 72.30.33.194 is 60.8 ms away via uunet, it is 109ms away 
via Telcove.   www.level3.com via uunet is 30ms away, via Telcove it is 
55ms away.

Trace to level3.com via UUNet

Hostname 
                     %Loss  Rcv  Snt  Last Best  Avg  Worst
  1. ndcr3-52.datasync.net 
                         0%    6    6     0    0    0      0
  2. ndcr6-ndcr3.datasync.net 
                         0%    5    5     0    0    0      0
  3. POS1-2.GW4.NOL1.ALTER.NET 
                         0%    5    5     1    0    1      1
  4. 501.at-0-0-0.XL2.NOL1.ALTER.NET 
                         0%    5    5     1    1    1      1
  5. 0.so-6-2-0.XT1.DFW9.ALTER.NET 
                         0%    5    5    14   14   15     15
  6. 0.so-6-0-0.BR6.DFW9.ALTER.NET 
                         0%    5    5    15   14   14     15
  7. so-1-0-0.edge1.Dallas1.Level3.net 
                         0%    5    5    16   15   16     17
  8. so-1-2-0.bbr1.Dallas1.Level3.net 
                         0%    5    5    16   15   16     16
  9. ae-0-0.bbr2.Denver1.Level3.net 
                         0%    5    5    83   29   41     83
10. ge-6-1.hsa1.Denver1.Level3.net 
                        0%    5    5    35   29   31     35
11. 4.68.94.1 
                        0%    5    5    30   30   30     32
12. www.Level3.com 
                        0%    5    5    31   29   30     31


Via Telcove

  1. ndcr3-52.datasync.net 
                         0%    5    5     0    0    0      0
  2. 64.66.101.89 
                         0%    5    5     7    7    7      7
  3. 24.56.107.229 
                         0%    4    4    20   20   20     20
  4. ???
  5. 24.56.107.94 
                         0%    4    4    20   20   20     20
  6. ge-6-23.car1.Atlanta1.Level3.net 
                         0%    4    4   143   20   51    143
  7. ae-1-51.bbr1.Atlanta1.Level3.net 
                         0%    4    4    20   20   30     59
  8. as-0-0.bbr1.Denver1.Level3.net 
                         0%    4    4    54   53   54     54
  9. ge-9-0.hsa1.Denver1.Level3.net 
                         0%    4    4    55   54   54     55
10. 4.68.94.1 
                        0%    4    4    55   54   55     55
11. www.Level3.com 
                        0%    4    4    55   55   55     55


--
W. Kevin Hunt
CCIE #11841
Linux+ SME

"There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those that understand 
binary and those that do not."

Elijah Savage wrote:
> 
> Adam,
> 
> Because of contractual issues it makes it very hard for me to 
> participate on this list hence the vague original post. I was just 
> asking a general question to see if anyone else was having issues. I 
> have peering points with Broadwing(now level3), Sprint, AT&T and MCI(now 
> Verizon) that I can test for throughput from. 

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