[93062] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: BCP38 thread 93,871,738,435 (was Re: register.com down sev0?)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Fergie)
Thu Oct 26 02:33:04 2006
From: "Fergie" <fergdawg@netzero.net>
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 06:30:33 GMT
To: sean@donelan.com
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
This would appear, on its face, to be an easy exercise in educating
the IPSs in the foodchain.
Is there reasonable enough interest with NANOG to do that? If so,
I volunteer to workshop at the next NANOG.
But only if there is reasonable consensus to that effect. Or someone
else could do it, too. :-)
The point I'm trying to make is that if the community thinks it
is valuable, then the path is clear.
If not, then... =
- ferg
-- Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com> wrote:
The only data I have is from the MIT anti-spoofing test project which
has been pretty consistent for a long time. About 75%-80% of the nets, =
=
addressses, ASNs tests couldn't spoof, and about 20%-25% could.
The geo-location maps don't show much difference between parts of
the world. RIPE countries don't seem to be better or worse than ARIN
countries or APNIC countries or so on. ISPs on every continent seem
to be about the same.
http://spoofer.csail.mit.edu/summary.php
If someone finds the silver bullet that will change the remaining 25% or=
so of networks, I think ISPs on every continent would be interested.
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006, Fergie wrote:
> No.
>
> I think that is indicative of the problem.
>
> Don't you?
>
> -- Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Oct 2006, Fergie wrote:
>> I don't want to detract from the heat of this discussion, as
>> important as it is, but it (the discussion) illustrates a point
>> that RIPE has recognized -- and is actively perusing -- yet, ISPs
>> on this continent seem consistently to ignore: The consistent
>> implementation of BCP 38.
>>
>> It is nothing less than irresponsible, IMO...
>>
>> Why _is_ that?
>
> Do you have any data concerning the actual consistent deployment of
> BCP38++ in different parts of the world?
--
"Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson
Engineering Architecture for the Internet
fergdawg(at)netzero.net
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