[92841] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Boeing's Connexion announcement
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Alexander Harrowell)
Sun Oct 15 07:35:31 2006
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 12:31:54 +0100
From: "Alexander Harrowell" <a.harrowell@gmail.com>
To: "Todd Underwood" <todd-nanog@renesys.com>
Cc: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>, nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <20061015112750.GE12991@docforge.org>
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I wrote a 800 word article on a 15" Powerbook in Singapore Airlines economy
class last year, and filed it via Connexion..and that was quite neck-yanking
enough.
On 10/15/06, Todd Underwood <todd-nanog@renesys.com> wrote:
>
>
> patrick, all,
>
> On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 04:56:34AM -0400, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
>
> > >>AC power is not required. Bigger seats might be. :)
> > >
> > >bigger seats may not be required. ac power is.
> >
> > However, that same 12" PB (not a large laptop by any definition) on
> > Luftansa is close unusable in coach if the person in front of you
> > leans back. I had to contort pretty horribly to use it. (Which I
> > did, 'cause I -had- to send e-mail from the plane. :) Lack of seat
> > power was not an issue, I just had two batteries. And this was BOS -
> > > MUC, which ain't a short flight.
> >
> > Using a 15" or larger laptop on that flight is essentially
> > unthinkable. I could not have opened the laptop enough to see the
> > screen. During meals, the flight attendants made everyone sit up,
> > otherwise the people behind them wouldn't have been able to eat.
> > Yes, it was that bad.
> >
>
> i managed to post:
>
> http://www.renesys.com/blog/2006/04/tracking_plane_flight_on_inter.shtml
>
> with a 15" thinkpad from coach on lufthansa.
>
> so that includes the ssh session to screen to coorindate with
> coworkers, the several browsers, the emacs window and all the typing.
> it's not a short post, it has pictures that had to be screencaptured
> (or grabbed from the boeing nanog preso, respectively), but it wasn't
> overly difficult. maybe i'm just more of a contorionist than most.
>
> the issue of power is the same, i think as the even bigger issue of
> consistency/predictability which is what rodney was trying to point
> out, i think. people want to know that they're going to be able to
> use the service and they want to know this in advance. since no
> airline rolled it out on every single flight and no airline gave
> advance notice to passengers which flights would have the service, it
> was impossible to plan on being able to use it. that does two things:
> 1) it reduces the value of the service since it now becomes a happy
> coincidence rather than a planned part of the work day; 2) it makes it
> less likely that everyone will already have a full charge on their
> laptop batteries.
>
> having power at every seat would be easy and they should just do it.
>
> t
>
> _____________________________________________________________________
> todd underwood +1 603 643 9300 x101
> renesys corporation chief of operations & security
> todd@renesys.com http://www.renesys.com/blog/todd.shtml
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I wrote a 800 word article on a 15" Powerbook in Singapore Airlines economy class last year, and filed it via Connexion..and that was quite neck-yanking enough.<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/15/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">
Todd Underwood</b> <<a href="mailto:todd-nanog@renesys.com">todd-nanog@renesys.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>patrick, all,<br><br>On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 04:56:34AM -0400, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:<br><br>> >>AC power is not required. Bigger seats might be. :)<br>> ><br>> >bigger seats may not be required. ac power is.
<br>><br>> However, that same 12" PB (not a large laptop by any definition) on<br>> Luftansa is close unusable in coach if the person in front of you<br>> leans back. I had to contort pretty horribly to use it. (Which I
<br>> did, 'cause I -had- to send e-mail from the plane. :) Lack of seat<br>> power was not an issue, I just had two batteries. And this was BOS -<br>> > MUC, which ain't a short flight.<br>><br>> Using a 15" or larger laptop on that flight is essentially
<br>> unthinkable. I could not have opened the laptop enough to see the<br>> screen. During meals, the flight attendants made everyone sit up,<br>> otherwise the people behind them wouldn't have been able to eat.
<br>> Yes, it was that bad.<br>><br><br>i managed to post:<br><br><a href="http://www.renesys.com/blog/2006/04/tracking_plane_flight_on_inter.shtml">http://www.renesys.com/blog/2006/04/tracking_plane_flight_on_inter.shtml
</a><br><br>with a 15" thinkpad from coach on lufthansa.<br><br>so that includes the ssh session to screen to coorindate with<br>coworkers, the several browsers, the emacs window and all the typing.<br>it's not a short post, it has pictures that had to be screencaptured
<br>(or grabbed from the boeing nanog preso, respectively), but it wasn't<br>overly difficult. maybe i'm just more of a contorionist than most.<br><br>the issue of power is the same, i think as the even bigger issue of<br>
consistency/predictability which is what rodney was trying to point<br>out, i think. people want to know that they're going to be able to<br>use the service and they want to know this in advance. since no<br>airline rolled it out on every single flight and no airline gave
<br>advance notice to passengers which flights would have the service, it<br>was impossible to plan on being able to use it. that does two things:<br>1) it reduces the value of the service since it now becomes a happy<br>
coincidence rather than a planned part of the work day; 2) it makes it<br>less likely that everyone will already have a full charge on their<br>laptop batteries.<br><br>having power at every seat would be easy and they should just do it.
<br><br>t<br><br>_____________________________________________________________________<br>todd underwood +1 603 643 9300 x101<br>renesys corporation chief of operations & security<br><a href="mailto:todd@renesys.com">
todd@renesys.com</a> <a href="http://www.renesys.com/blog/todd.shtml">http://www.renesys.com/blog/todd.shtml</a><br></blockquote></div><br>
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