[92369] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: ARIN sucks?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Hank Nussbacher)
Sun Sep 17 03:02:27 2006
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 09:56:02 +0300
To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Hank Nussbacher <hank@efes.iucc.ac.il>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
>All our experiences consulting our clients about how to get their AS and
>Subnets have been pretty easy and fast.
>
>First get enought IP from 2 Peer to justify at least a /21;
>
>Now that you have 2 Peer, request the AS and a Subnet from ARIN;
>
>Take a day or 2 to prepare the paperwork;
>
>Submit it in the right sequence to ARIN;
>
>And LISTEN to your ARIN rep, they know how the procedure must be done and
>will help your get it done correctly.
>
>Simple really.
It is indeed simple if you know what needs to be done and what is
expected. Even in your case above you mislead people into thinking that
one can "request the AS and a Subnet from ARIN". After setting up the
various POCs (step #1), step #2 is getting an ORG. Step #3 is requesting
the IP space and *not* the ASN. One can't get an ASN from ARIN *until* you
have IP space. Once you are authorized by ARIN for the IP space, one has
to pay ARIN (step #4). One can pay online via credit card, which for large
organizations can sometimes be a problem. In addition, ARIN doesn't accept
American Express. Therefore, step #4 might very well involve cutting a
check and Fedex'ing it to ARIN and waiting till they process it. Step #5,
which can be done in parallel to step #4 is getting the ARIN Registration
Service Agreement signed by your legal department. Once again, depending
on the size of your organization, this might take anywhere from 1-3
weeks. Step #6 is the ASN request. In order to do that one needs to
submit a signed copy of the two contracts one has with their upstreams (to
justify the ASN). Once again, these contracts might be buried in legal,
need to be found and scanned and sent to ARIN before the ASN request can be
processed. Step #7 is paying for the ASN either online or by check (see
step #4 above).
Those that stated the process to get IP and ASN from ARIN would be a week
or so, might be referring to very small organizations (even there I am a
bit skeptical). My experience was that IP assignment took about a month
and ASN took about a month.
Regards,
Hank Nussbacher
http://www.interall.co.il
