[92268] in North American Network Operators' Group
friends? you got friends?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com)
Tue Sep 12 23:01:56 2006
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 02:59:05 +0000
From: bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com
To: Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net>
Cc: Joe Abley <jabley@ca.afilias.info>,
Daniel Golding <dgolding@tier1research.com>,
"'Adi Linden'" <adil@adis.on.ca>, nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <20060912235244.GD2180@overlord.e-gerbil.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
> Try looking at it from an outsider's point of view instead. If you're new
> to dealing with ARIN, it is not uncommon to find the process is absolutely
> baffling, frustrating, slow, expensive, and requiring intrusive disclosure
> just shy of an anal cavity probe.
as is dealing with pretty much any bureaucracy for which you
are a novice. (FedWire/CBD anyone? :)
> In any kind of free market system, competition would have bitchslapped the
> current ARIN way of doing things a long, long time ago. Personally I find
> the single most compelling reason to move to IPv6 to be the removal of any
> justification for ARIN's continued existance in its current form.
but its not "free-market" is it.
> Somehow I suspect the only folks who wouldn't welcome this are the ones
> who benefit from the one thing ARIN is actually good at doing, namely
> paying for frequent business class travel and accomodations to exotic
> locations around the world under the pretense of "meetings". Hrm guess I
> had better offer dinner in St Louis is on me for whichever one of my
> friends on the "ARIN travel plan" complains about this post first. :)
while not i'm particularly enamored of the current status quo,
it has the distinct advantage of being member-driven. and that
means if the members want a change, there is a clear path for
that change to occur. and perhaps its my particular POV, but
arin members do seem adept at making "disruptive" changes in
general RIR policies.
--bill
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