[92252] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Kremen's Buddy?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Justin M. Streiner)
Tue Sep 12 15:33:24 2006
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 15:39:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Justin M. Streiner" <streiner@cluebyfour.org>
To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <01e601c6d69f$22fc6bf0$1400a8c0@andrew>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
On Tue, 12 Sep 2006, andrew2@one.net wrote:
> It seems to me that this nicely illustrates a major problem with the
> current system. Here we have large blocks of IP space that, by their
> own rules, ARIN should take back. It all sounds nice on paper, but
> clearly there is a hole in the system whereby ARIN doesn't know and
> apparently has no way of figuring out that the space is no longer in
> use. It makes me wonder just how much space like that there is out
> there artifically increasing IP scarcity. I don't know what the
> solution is, but the way things currently work it seems like if you can
> justify a block today, it's yours forever even if you stop actively
> using it. Maybe allowing for some kind of IP market would cut down on
> that type of hoarding -- you would at the very least change the type of
> value those subnets have.
Many of those legacy allocations were made before ARIN came into being and
IP assignments were doled out by the InterNIC. This was also before
IANA/ICANN started allocating /8s to the various RIRs to hand out to
organizations in their respective geographic areas.
That said I think $RIR's approach has been that they won't push an
organization on their legacy blocks. There have been a few cases of
organizations willingly turning in their legacy blocks for more
appropriately sized ranges in the past.
jms
