[92208] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: [OT] Connexion {Was: Re: [routing-wg]BGP Update Report}
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Marshall Eubanks)
Sun Sep 10 15:33:40 2006
In-Reply-To: <87slizppho.fsf@valhalla.seastrom.com>
Cc: Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net>,
"Steven M. Bellovin" <smb@cs.columbia.edu>, netfortius@gmail.com,
NANGO <nanog@merit.edu>
From: Marshall Eubanks <tme@multicasttech.com>
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 15:32:07 -0400
To: Robert E.Seastrom <rs@seastrom.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
There is still interest in this technology at Boeing and elsewhere, and
there will probably be a BOF on the problems associated with large
mobile networks at the
San Diego IETF this Fall. Anyone interested in the technology at the
IP level can let me know and I will
make sure you get the announcements.
As for the business side of it, there are other uses for network
connectivity on a modern aircraft
besides searching the web.
Regards
Marshall
On Sep 10, 2006, at 2:04 PM, Robert E.Seastrom wrote:
>
>
> Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net> writes:
>
>> Duh. Did you ever read the numbers for Connexion? They managed to
>> design a
>> system which cost the airlines up to $1mil per plane to install,
>> and only
>> generated $80k/yr/plane total revenue (thats Boeing revenue not
>> airline
>> revenue). They had an opex of something like $150mil/yr on total
>> revenue
>> of $11mil/yr.
>
> Now this is interesting. $80k/year, $25 a shot = 3200 users per
> aircraft per year. Assume long-haul aircraft that daily average two
> flights per day, 320 days per year (to keep it easy), that means the
> average number of users on a flight is... 5.
>
> Someone's marketing department was asleep at the switch, I think.
>
>> Obviously there is no such thing as an FAA certified $50 Linksys
>> WRT54G,
>> but it never fails to amaze me how people are utterly shocked when
>> reality
>> catches up with their wild, unchecked, and stupid spending. :)
>
> My recollection is that they were using fairly off the shelf stuff
> though, 3548s and Aironet 1200s if memory serves. It's poking holes
> in the fuselage for the antenna, and the satellite antenna itself,
> that costs the big bucks.
>
> ---rob
>
