[92167] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: [Fwd: Kremen VS Arin Antitrust Lawsuit - Anyone have feedback?]
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (andrew2@one.net)
Fri Sep 8 14:31:31 2006
From: <andrew2@one.net>
To: <tony.li@tony.li>, <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 14:16:52 -0400
In-Reply-To: <000601c6d370$cc1369a0$697d14ac@tropos.com>
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>>> 3) What's wrong with treating assignments like property and setting
up a market to buy and sell them? There's plenty of precedent for this:
>>> Mineral rights, mining claims, Oil and gas leases, radio spectrum.
>>> If a given commodity is truly scarce, nothing works as good as the
free market in encouraging consumers to conserve and make the best use
of it.
>>>
>> I think you're dead-on there, but you forget who you're really trying
to convince. It'll happen eventually but in the meantime the greybeards
who were
>> largely responsible for the Internet as we know it (and who by and
large still wield significant influence if not still stewardship) will
be dragged there kicking
>> and screaming from their academic/pseudo-Marxist ideals, some of whom
seem to still resent the commercialization of the Internet. It's also
hard to see
>> the faults in the system when you are insulated by your position as
member of the politburo.
>>
>> The flip side of the coin of course is that if you let the free
market reign on IP's, you may price developing countries right off the
Internet which I don't think
>> anyone sees as a desirable outcome. There's sure to be a happy
middle ground that people smarter than I will figure out, and maybe it
takes a silly lawsuit
>> such as this to kick things off.
>>
>> Andrew Cruse
>
> Another somewhat important point is that we also need to conserve
routing entries. If you make a market for addresses without regard to
routability, you risk
> creating a situation where you flood the world with /32's. No thanks.
>
> Tony
I would think that would tend to police itself. Even now with things as
they are you're going to have serious reachability problems if you try
to announce anything smaller than a /24. And if routing tables suddenly
explode, I'd expect that threshold to quickly move in reaction.
Andrew Cruse
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class=3D878024117-08092006><SPAN class=3D460255817-08092006><SPAN=20
class=3D816271018-08092006>> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></FONT><=
SPAN=20
class=3D878024117-08092006><SPAN class=3D460255817-08092006>Another =
somewhat=20
important point is that we also need to conserve routing=20
entries. If you make a market for addresses without regard to =
routability,=20
you risk <SPAN=20
class=3D816271018-08092006> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FON=
T></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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style=3D"WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 12px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; =
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face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT =
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class=3D878024117-08092006><SPAN class=3D460255817-08092006><SPAN=20
class=3D816271018-08092006>> </SPAN>creating a situation where =
you flood=20
the world with /32's. No thanks.<SPAN=20
class=3D816271018-08092006> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FON=
T></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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</FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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style=3D"WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 12px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; =
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size=3D2><FONT><FONT><FONT><FONT><SPAN=20
class=3D878024117-08092006><SPAN class=3D460255817-08092006><SPAN=20
class=3D816271018-08092006>> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></FONT><=
/FONT></FONT><SPAN=20
class=3D878024117-08092006><SPAN class=3D460255817-08092006>Tony<SPAN=20
class=3D816271018-08092006> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D878024117-08092006><SPAN class=3D460255817-08092006><SPAN=20
class=3D816271018-08092006> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FON=
T></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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style=3D"WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 12px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; =
COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; =
LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; border-spacing: 0px =
0px; khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; apple-text-size-adjust: =
auto; orphans: 2; widows: 2"><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-style-span=20
style=3D"WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 12px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; =
COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; =
LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; border-spacing: 0px =
0px; khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; apple-text-size-adjust: =
auto; orphans: 2; widows: 2"><FONT=20
face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D878024117-08092006><SPAN=20
class=3D460255817-08092006><SPAN=20
class=3D816271018-08092006></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SP=
AN></SPAN> </DIV>
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style=3D"WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 12px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; =
COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; =
LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; border-spacing: 0px =
0px; khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; apple-text-size-adjust: =
auto; orphans: 2; widows: 2"><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-style-span=20
style=3D"WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 12px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; =
COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; =
LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; border-spacing: 0px =
0px; khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; apple-text-size-adjust: =
auto; orphans: 2; widows: 2"><FONT=20
face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D878024117-08092006><SPAN=20
class=3D460255817-08092006><SPAN class=3D816271018-08092006>I would =
think that would=20
tend to police itself. Even now with things as they are you're =
going to=20
have serious reachability problems if you try to announce anything =
smaller than=20
a /24. And if routing tables suddenly explode, I'd expect that =
threshold=20
to quickly move in=20
reaction.</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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class=3DApple-style-span=20
style=3D"WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 12px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; =
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face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D878024117-08092006><SPAN=20
class=3D460255817-08092006><SPAN=20
class=3D816271018-08092006></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SP=
AN></SPAN> </DIV>
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0px; khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; apple-text-size-adjust: =
auto; orphans: 2; widows: 2"><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-style-span=20
style=3D"WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 12px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; =
COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; =
LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; border-spacing: 0px =
0px; khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; apple-text-size-adjust: =
auto; orphans: 2; widows: 2"><FONT=20
face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D878024117-08092006><SPAN=20
class=3D460255817-08092006><SPAN class=3D816271018-08092006>Andrew=20
Cruse</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV></BODY=
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