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RE: NNTP feed.
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John van Oppen)
Tue Sep 5 19:44:38 2006
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:39:39 -0700
From: "John van Oppen" <john@vanoppen.com>
To: "Jeroen Massar" <jeroen@unfix.org>
Cc: <deepak@ai.net>, "Drew Weaver" <drew.weaver@thenap.com>,
<nanog@merit.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
I guess I should say that most people are outsourcing to the bigger news =
shops (at least the people I know are) due to the hardware demands of =
today's news volumes.
john :)
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeroen Massar [mailto:jeroen@unfix.org]
Sent: Tue 9/5/2006 4:10 PM
To: John van Oppen
Cc: deepak@ai.net; Drew Weaver; nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: NNTP feed.
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John van Oppen wrote:
> we don't run one either... :)
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> The last person I know who was running one, was in the proccess of =
killing it. =20
Apparently you found some people killing it off, while there are=20
actually companies who specialize in NNTP access. It seems that for=20
mysterious reasons which the RIAA and other such organizations=20
apparently don't seem to understand that these companies are also=20
causing quite a lot of traffic to be shifted over the internet.
Peeking at for instance http://www.nextfeed.nl/ reveals that there is=20
one ISP having 40 days retention which apparently maps to 6*50 TB (that=20
is 300 Terabytes indeed) of storage space, while there are also another=20
having 50 days of retention, most likely mapping to somewhat like 400=20
Tb. On average they seem to be shifting in the vicinity of 15Tb/day=20
though, looking at the number 14 of the top1000.org list.
For hardware freaks it of course gives some nice things like the dutch=20
newszilla installation: http://wa.ter.net/gallery2/images/newszilla
That single setup already makes quite some small hosting companies drool =
out of both corners ;) Networking freaks will love the "Core Juniper 640 =
handles newszilla traffic" comment <grin>
Otherwise said: if you are setting up a full-nntp-feed capable box,=20
you'll have to dig nice and deep into that money bag but on the other=20
hand there seems to be loads of people doing a lot of posting and=20
reading, where else would the volume of that traffic come from?
For the people trying to find peers, check:
http://www.usenet.com/peering/peeringpage.cfm
and of course also: http://www.top1000.org/ where even google pops up in =
a 4th place.
Greets,
Jeroen
