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Re: NNTP feed.

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jeroen Massar)
Tue Sep 5 19:11:01 2006

Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 01:10:00 +0200
From: Jeroen Massar <jeroen@unfix.org>
To: John van Oppen <john@vanoppen.com>
Cc: deepak@ai.net, Drew Weaver <drew.weaver@thenap.com>,
	nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <AFAA93E042C32143A244FFB1166AB0FECB5223@mail-ww.vanoppen.com>
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John van Oppen wrote:
> we don't run one either...  :)
>=20
> The last person I know who was running one, was in the proccess of kill=
ing it. =20

Apparently you found some people killing it off, while there are=20
actually companies who specialize in NNTP access. It seems that for=20
mysterious reasons which the RIAA and other such organizations=20
apparently don't seem to understand that these companies are also=20
causing quite a lot of traffic to be shifted over the internet.

Peeking at for instance http://www.nextfeed.nl/ reveals that there is=20
one ISP having 40 days retention which apparently maps to 6*50 TB (that=20
is 300 Terabytes indeed) of storage space, while there are also another=20
having 50 days of retention, most likely mapping to somewhat like 400=20
Tb. On average they seem to be shifting in the vicinity of 15Tb/day=20
though, looking at the number 14 of the top1000.org list.

For hardware freaks it of course gives some nice things like the dutch=20
newszilla installation: http://wa.ter.net/gallery2/images/newszilla
That single setup already makes quite some small hosting companies drool =

out of both corners ;) Networking freaks will love the "Core Juniper 640 =

handles newszilla traffic" comment <grin>

Otherwise said: if you are setting up a full-nntp-feed capable box,=20
you'll have to dig nice and deep into that money bag but on the other=20
hand there seems to be loads of people doing a lot of posting and=20
reading, where else would the volume of that traffic come from?

For the people trying to find peers, check:
http://www.usenet.com/peering/peeringpage.cfm
and of course also: http://www.top1000.org/ where even google pops up in =

a 4th place.

Greets,
  Jeroen


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