[91920] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Amazon?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joseph Jackson)
Mon Aug 21 16:52:02 2006
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 13:51:18 -0700
From: "Joseph Jackson" <JJackson@aninetworks.com>
To: "Jon R. Kibler" <Jon.Kibler@aset.com>,
"Elijah Savage" <esavage@digitalrage.org>
Cc: "Brandon Galbraith" <brandon.galbraith@gmail.com>,
<nanog@nanog.org>, "Steven M. Bellovin" <smb@cs.columbia.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
That whois stuff is meaningless. When are people going to get it that
it really isn't a "hack".
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On=20
> Behalf Of Jon R. Kibler
> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 1:36 PM
> To: Elijah Savage
> Cc: Brandon Galbraith; nanog@nanog.org; Steven M. Bellovin
> Subject: Re: Amazon?
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> I am currently in the DC area. It appears that Amazon came up=20
> about 20 minutes ago.
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> SANS ISC has a little info on the problem. Quoting from=20
> http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?n&storyid=3D1625 :
> > UPDATE:
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> > Diligent Reader Corwin Grey points out:
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> > "Amazon may be having more than a 'little' trouble. :/=20
> Check out their whois:
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> > Server Name: AMAZON.COM.IS.N0T.AS.1337.AS.WWW.GULLI.COM
> > IP Address: 80.190.192.24
> > Registrar: KEY-SYSTEMS GMBH
> > Whois Server: whois.rrpproxy.net
> > Referral URL: http://www.key-systems.net
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> > <snip>"
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> > Now, amazon.com looks OK from a whois lookup at=20
> www.internic.net (record points to Network Solutions) and=20
> from a Network Solutions whois lookup. But, it looks like=20
> we've got some whois database hijinks out there for some of=20
> the whois servers and the www.amazon.com info.
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> > Reader Sean points out that these gulli folks do this kind=20
> of thing a lot to sites like Amazon.com, Microsoft, and=20
> others, and these whois hijinks are likely independent of the=20
> back-end problems that Amazon.com appears to be having. I agree.
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> > I just now checked, and they seem to be back up... so,=20
> intermittent problem fixed? For now... It's not the end of=20
> the world.
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> > --Ed Skoudis
> > Intelguardians
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> Elijah Savage wrote:
> > Thats strange I am not having any issues at all and I have=20
> tested it=20
> > from 3 different peering points.
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Brandon Galbraith <brandon.galbraith@gmail.com>
> > To: Steven M. Bellovin <smb@cs.columbia.edu>
> > Cc: Jon R. Kibler <Jon.Kibler@aset.com>, nanog@nanog.org
> > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 3:42:21 PM GMT-0500
> > Subject: Re: Amazon?
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> > Intermittent application/load balancer issues perhaps?
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> > -brandon
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> > On 8/21/06, *Steven M. Bellovin* <smb@cs.columbia.edu=20
> > <mailto:smb@cs.columbia.edu>> wrote:
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> > On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:21:40 -0400, "Jon R. Kibler" <
> > Jon.Kibler@aset.com <mailto:Jon.Kibler@aset.com>>
> > wrote:
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> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Anyone know what is up with Amazon? They appear to be down.
> > >
> > > Doesn't appear to be a network issue... tried from=20
> two different
> > ISP's networks.
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> > That's odd. When I try from one path, I get the same=20
> error you get;
> > when
> > I try another, it works. A tcptraceroute shows that=20
> both are ending
> > up at
> > the same IP address at Amazon, too.
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> > --Steven M. Bellovin,
> > http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb=20
> > <http://www.cs.columbia.edu/%7Esmb>
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> > --
> > Brandon Galbraith
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> > <mailto:brandon.galbraith@gmail.com>
> > AIM: brandong00
> > Voice: 630.400.6992
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> > --thelost"
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> Jon R. Kibler
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