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Re: i am not a list moderator, but i do have a request

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Thu Aug 17 16:31:36 2006

To: Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net>
Cc: Gadi Evron <ge@linuxbox.org>, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:15:25 EDT."
             <20060817201525.GK12298@overlord.e-gerbil.net>
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:30:49 -0400
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


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On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:15:25 EDT, Richard A Steenbergen said:

> If this is all we have to talk about and it is on-topic, then NANOG has 
> failed, and we need a new list where people can actually discuss network 
> operations.

Admittedly, discussions about how to mitigate a botnet are less on topic than
discussing how to fix a BGP wedgie.  On the other hand, it's very hard to
launch a DDoS big enough to need mitigating unless you have a botnet to launch
it from.  Even Mafiaboy knew that one.

So if you get rid of the botnets, you get rid of the 2AM alerts that a DDoS is
in progress.  And 2AM alerts are operational, at least in my book.


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