[91825] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: SORBS Contact
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Derek J. Balling)
Mon Aug 14 12:13:33 2006
In-Reply-To: <200608141600.k7EG0oOS007040@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Cc: davids@webmaster.com, nanog@merit.edu
From: "Derek J. Balling" <deballing@vassar.edu>
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 12:13:02 -0400
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
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On Aug 14, 2006, at 12:00 PM, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 21:11:58 PDT, David Schwartz said:
>
>> Nonsense. You have tort obligations as well as contractual
>> obligations.
>> Specifically, if you take custody of someone else's data, and you
>> have no
>> contract with that person, you have a tort obligation not to
>> destroy it.
>
> Of course, that only applies if you're dumb enough to answer '250
> OK' to
> the '.' after the DATA. You 5xx that puppy anywhere before that,
> and you
> haven't taken custody of that data...
This is ridiculous (not your argument, Valdis, but the whole thread
in general).
If my customers ask me to, or accept via subscribing to a service
with a TOS that so permits, me accepting their mail and throwing it
away silently, then that's between me and them, nobody else.
This is no different from me authorizing Mail Boxes Etc to be my
proxy for UPS packages, and them being allowed to simply discard
anything from, say, an ex-wife. My ex-wife has no claim, in this
hypothetical, against MBE for tossing my package in the trash,
because they're acting as my agent.
Now, *I* might have a claim against MBE, if I never authorized them
to do so and they didn't have a terms-of-service document which I'd
agreed to (actively or passively) which said they could do it, but
that's a claim between my agent and myself, not the sender.
Cheers,
D
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Derek J. Balling
Manager of Systems Administration
Vassar College
124 Raymond Ave
Box 0406 - Computer Center 217
Poughkeepsie, NY 12604
W: (845) 437-7231
C: (845) 249-9731
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