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Re: ISP wants to stop outgoing web based spam

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Hank Nussbacher)
Fri Aug 11 00:21:24 2006

Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 07:20:56 +0300 (IDT)
From: Hank Nussbacher <hank@efes.iucc.ac.il>
To: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <87odusl4rj.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


On Thu, 10 Aug 2006, Florian Weimer wrote:

>> Back in 2002 I asked if anyone had a solution to block or rate limit
>> outgoing web based spam.
>
> What is web-based spam?  Comment spam?  Wiki defacements?  Or do you
> want to stop spam sent via web mailers?  That's their job.  They know
> more about their customers than you, and quite a few of them use HTTPS
> anyway.
>
> If Yahoo hasn't got rate limits on their "I've got a new email
> address" feature, for example, they need to fix it, not you or anybody
> else.

The big boys know what to do.  The smaller ones like walla.co.il, jumpy.it 
and mail.ru to name just 3 out of about 300 I have seen, do not have all 
those bells and whistles and therefore, in order to protect an ISPs IP 
address space from not getting burned by spammers, the ISP has to take 
proactive measures.

-Hank Nussbacher
http://www.interall.co.il


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