[91631] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: ISP wants to stop outgoing web based spam
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joe Abley)
Wed Aug 9 12:23:42 2006
In-Reply-To: <20060809160258.GC6196@mailchannels.com>
Cc: Matthew Black <black@csulb.edu>, nanog@merit.edu
From: Joe Abley <jabley@ca.afilias.info>
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 12:22:05 -0400
To: Ken Simpson <ksimpson@mailchannels.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
On 9-Aug-2006, at 12:02, Ken Simpson wrote:
>
>> Maybe I'm just an ignorant e-mail postmaster. I thought that
>> nearly all e-mail was (E)SMTP-based (LMTP excepted).
>>
>> If it doesn't use the SMTP protocol, it's not reaching any
>> mailbox. HTTP is a web browser protocol. WebMail gets converted
>> by the web server and is subsequently routed using SMTP.
>
> I think he's talking about blog spam, which is definitely submitted
> over HTTP.
I thought it was pretty clear that he was talking about e-mail spam
submitted using HTTP to webmail services like hotmail, yahoo and gmail:
On 9-Aug-2006, at 11:11, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
> I guess I wasn't clear enough in my first posting. I am not
> interested in smtp (port 25 spam). We have that covered. I am
> only interested in blocking outgoing web based spam. A user sits
> and sends out spam via automated tools via Hotmail, Yahoo, Gmail,
> or whatever Webmail system where they have set up thousands of
> throwaway users.
Blog spam is easily avoided by only ever using RSS and never, ever
clocking through to read any comments :-)
Joe
