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Re: ISP wants to stop outgoing web based spam

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ken Simpson)
Wed Aug 9 11:57:29 2006

Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 08:51:24 -0700
From: Ken Simpson <ksimpson@mailchannels.com>
To: Hank Nussbacher <hank@efes.iucc.ac.il>
Cc: "Mills, Charles" <cmills@accessdc.com>,
	"Michael K. Smith - Adhost" <mksmith@adhost.com>,
	Nanog <nanog@merit.edu>
Reply-To: Ken Simpson <ksimpson@mailchannels.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608091804410.20378@efes.iucc.ac.il>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


Hi Hank,

Have you had any luck combining Squid in a transparent proxy
configuration with SpamAssassin? A commercial plugin like Cloudmark
might provide better performance (since it doesn't have to evaluate
thousands of regex rules for each connection).

How to run Squid as a transparent proxy:
http://wiki.squid-cache.org/SquidFaq/InterceptionProxy

I haven't figured out how to get Squid to let you run a script to scan
and modify requests that are passing through. If you can figure that
out I'd love to know!

Otherwise, you might try looking at a couple of security auditing
proxies:

http://www.parosproxy.org/functions.shtml (Java)
http://www.immunitysec.com/resources-freesoftware.shtml (Spike Proxy,
Python)

.. Or you could roll your own simple CGI script that accepts web
queries and uses LWP or another simple package to fetch the results --
scanning for spam at the same time.

Regards,
Ken Simpson
MailChannels

Hank Nussbacher [09/08/06 18:11 +0300]:
> 
> On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Mills, Charles wrote:
> 
> I guess I wasn't clear enough in my first posting.  I am not interested in 
> smtp (port 25 spam).  We have that covered.  I am only interested in 
> blocking outgoing web based spam.  A user sits and sends out spam via 
> automated tools via Hotmail, Yahoo, Gmail, or whatever Webmail system 
> where they have set up thousands of throwaway users.  An antispam proxy 
> (that I want to install and manage) has to be able to come between the 
> user on his/her PC and the Hotmail system and scan the http posts and page 
> templates for things like number of receipents and other tricks like 
> keeping track of the number of http posts.  It has to maintain a list of 
> known free webmail systems that are abused.
> 
> Based on my stats from Spamcop, 60% of all outgoing spam is http based 
> rather than smtp based.  Others may have slightly higher or lower numbers.
> 
> So, is there any magic fu out there to solve this?

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