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RE: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Barry Shein)
Wed Aug 2 15:45:56 2006

From: Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 15:32:22 -0400
To: "Jamie Bowden" <jamie@photon.com>
Cc: "Paul Vixie" <vixie@vix.com>, <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <2E1E24B64BAA084FBF3789EE47103162A888B3@hal.photon.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu



On August 2, 2006 at 07:54 jamie@photon.com (Jamie Bowden) wrote:
 > 
 > I'd just like to point out Paul, that while we may rely on police to
 > handle crimes in the real world, we still lock our doors.
 > 

And, in most neighborhoods, feel reasonably safe with locked doors and
glass windows (particularly for our vehicles.)

The problem starts when the best suggestion is to board up all the
windows because they're so easily broken and entered.

That is, when security measures become so onerous that they devalue
the quality of life.

At some point it's time to put the onus on the bad guys and make
*them* afraid.

P.S. A trick I learned working with the Boston Fire Dept: Many
buildings with solid locked doors and barred windows can be cut into
right thru the wall in a minute with common handtools, at least enough
to reach around and unlock the door. Sound familiar?

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