[91396] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Hot weather and power outages continue
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brandon Galbraith)
Mon Jul 24 18:26:30 2006
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 17:26:00 -0500
From: "Brandon Galbraith" <brandon.galbraith@gmail.com>
To: "William S. Duncanson" <caesar@starkreality.com>
Cc: "Michael Loftis" <mloftis@wgops.com>, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <003401c6af6f$0886a3f0$3d0b000a@nutecenergy.com>
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While hardwired (fiber/coax/copper) aggregation points usually don't have
backup power on them, most cellular towers have either batteries or
generators for backup power, correct?
-brandon
On 7/24/06, William S. Duncanson <caesar@starkreality.com> wrote:
>
>
> Indeed, my RoadRunner connection is the same way. All of my stuff stays
> up,
> but "teh Interweb is broken." I'm guessing that they (DSL/CableCo's) find
> it
> too cost-prohibitive to roll out UPSes to the customer aggregation points.
> Suprisingly, my cable TV goes out as well when the power goes, so it might
> just be more than the CMTS that's going out.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of
> Michael Loftis
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 16:20
> To: nanog@merit.edu
> Subject: Re: Hot weather and power outages continue
>
>
>
>
> --On July 24, 2006 2:22:26 AM -0400 Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com> wrote:
>
> > While its expected for individual customers to go down during power
> > outages, usually because the customer does not have local backup
> > power, it is less common for major web sites and co-location centers
> > to experience downtime during power outages.
>
> Except if you're in Qwest territory. Apparently they don't put any
> battery
> backup at their mini-DSLAMs and such. Every time we lose power, I'm still
> up, but the DSL signal goes away. Haven't checked dialtone, but I keep
> meaning too during the next outage.
>
> Now I know it's not exactly fair singling out Qwest, because I'll bet
> Verizon and others share the same thing, and I'm pretty sure it's just
> their
> ADSL service and not the voice service (I haven't checked though) it's
> still becoming more and more common that as an individual user your
> connection to the internet, unless you're paying for something other than
> ADSL or Cable, will be just as affected by local power outages.
>
>
--
Brandon Galbraith
Email: brandon.galbraith@gmail.com
AIM: brandong00
Voice: 630.400.6992
"A true pirate starts drinking before the sun hits the yard-arm. Yarrrr.
--thelost"
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While hardwired (fiber/coax/copper) aggregation points usually don't have backup power on them, most cellular towers have either batteries or generators for backup power, correct?<br><br>-brandon<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">
On 7/24/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">William S. Duncanson</b> <<a href="mailto:caesar@starkreality.com">caesar@starkreality.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>Indeed, my RoadRunner connection is the same way. All of my stuff stays up,<br>but "teh Interweb is broken." I'm guessing that they (DSL/CableCo's) find it<br>too cost-prohibitive to roll out UPSes to the customer aggregation points.
<br>Suprisingly, my cable TV goes out as well when the power goes, so it might<br>just be more than the CMTS that's going out.<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu">owner-nanog@merit.edu
</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu">owner-nanog@merit.edu</a>] On Behalf Of<br>Michael Loftis<br>Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 16:20<br>To: <a href="mailto:nanog@merit.edu">nanog@merit.edu</a><br>Subject: Re: Hot weather and power outages continue
<br><br><br><br><br>--On July 24, 2006 2:22:26 AM -0400 Sean Donelan <<a href="mailto:sean@donelan.com">sean@donelan.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>> While its expected for individual customers to go down during power<br>
> outages, usually because the customer does not have local backup<br>> power, it is less common for major web sites and co-location centers<br>> to experience downtime during power outages.<br><br>Except if you're in Qwest territory. Apparently they don't put any battery
<br>backup at their mini-DSLAMs and such. Every time we lose power, I'm still<br>up, but the DSL signal goes away. Haven't checked dialtone, but I keep<br>meaning too during the next outage.<br><br>Now I know it's not exactly fair singling out Qwest, because I'll bet
<br>Verizon and others share the same thing, and I'm pretty sure it's just their<br>ADSL service and not the voice service (I haven't checked though) it's<br>still becoming more and more common that as an individual user your
<br>connection to the internet, unless you're paying for something other than<br>ADSL or Cable, will be just as affected by local power outages.<br><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Brandon Galbraith<br>
Email: <a href="mailto:brandon.galbraith@gmail.com">brandon.galbraith@gmail.com</a><br>AIM: brandong00<br>Voice: 630.400.6992<br>"A true pirate starts drinking before the sun hits the yard-arm. Yarrrr. --thelost"
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