[91271] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Sitefinder II, the sequel...
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joseph Jackson)
Tue Jul 11 15:59:31 2006
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 12:57:12 -0700
From: "Joseph Jackson" <JJackson@aninetworks.com>
To: "Daniel Golding" <dgolding@tier1research.com>,
"Stephane Bortzmeyer" <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>,
"Steve Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
Cc: <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
I agree. I think this isn't a bad service. If people want to run it
more power to them. =20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Golding [mailto:dgolding@tier1research.com]=20
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 12:22 PM
> To: 'Stephane Bortzmeyer'; 'Steve Sobol'
> Cc: Joseph Jackson; nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: RE: Sitefinder II, the sequel...
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> That's absolutely ridiculous. Enterprise IT organizations=20
> make decisions on behalf of their userbase all day. Frankly,=20
> I'd be shocked if many tried this out - most enterprises run=20
> their own DNS servers as part of an Active Directory scheme.=20
> In any case, those workstations belong to the enterprise and=20
> they can point them to whatever DNS servers they want.=20
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> For most end-users, their Internet access provider already=20
> selects their DNS caching server. ISPs are within their=20
> rights to do this - I'm surprised most broadband ISPs haven't=20
> done exactly what OpenDNS is doing to generate revenue.
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> I'm sure if you look really hard, you can find something else=20
> to be outraged about. OpenDNS isn't it. I'm at a loss to=20
> explain why people are trying so hard to condemn something like this.=20
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> - Daniel Golding
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]=20
> On Behalf=20
> > Of Stephane Bortzmeyer
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 3:09 AM
> > To: Steve Sobol
> > Cc: Joseph Jackson; nanog@nanog.org
> > Subject: Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel...
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> > On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 at 11:19:51PM -0700, Steve Sobol=20
> > <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote a message of 16 lines which said:
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> > > There's a big difference, of course, between=20
> INTENTIONALLY pointing=20
> > > your computers at DNS servers that do this kind of thing,=20
> and having=20
> > > it done for you without your knowledge and/or consent.
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> > As Steven Bellovin pointed out, most OpenDNS users will not=20
> choose it:
> > it will be choosen for them by their corporate IT department or by=20
> > their Internet access provider.
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