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Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel...

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Niels Bakker)
Mon Jul 10 14:41:54 2006

Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:41:24 +0200
From: Niels Bakker <niels=nanog@bakker.net>
To: nanog@nanog.org
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* markjr@easydns.com (Mark Jeftovic) [Mon 10 Jul 2006, 15:55 CEST]:
>I think the openDNS approach is far different from the Verisign 
>sitefinder debacle if only for the important reason that using openDNS 
>is voluntary and using sitefinder wasn't.

Correct.  OpenDNS is not abusing a monopoly position here.


>Also, sitefinder created a wildcard DNS record where none existed 
>before, breaking all kinds of applications in the process, openDNS 
>doesn't do this.

Wrong.  Asking their "big caching nameserver" for gibberish returns "IN 
A 208.67.219.40" instead of NXDOMAIN.  Same breakage occurs, although 
they return NXDOMAIN instead of NOERROR when queried about MX or AAAA 
records, so ironically damage for IPv6-enabled applications is limited.

They seem to be using Yahoo! as search engine there.

220 reject.opendns.com - OpenDNS Mail Rejection Service 1.2 (No mail accepted here)

Remind you of anything - what was it called, chuck?  It's already broken.


>So at the end of the day, people are FREE to decide what resolvers to 
>use and whoever comes along to offer their idea of "value adds" can go 
>right ahead without borking the internet.

Several people have eloquently expressed why creating different views of 
a global namespace is a bad idea before on this mailing list.


>Personally I think openDNS is an idea whose time has come and that Dave 
>Ulevitch and is crew are going to hit one out of the ballpark with this.

Have you switched your company over yet?

Regards,


	-- Niels.

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