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Re: 2006.06.05 NANOG-NOTES Peering BOF notes

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Niels Bakker)
Tue Jun 6 10:49:30 2006

Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 16:48:53 +0200
From: Niels Bakker <niels=nanog@bakker.net>
To: nanog@merit.edu
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Nice notes - thanks.

* mpetach@netflight.com (Matthew Petach) [Tue 06 Jun 2006, 12:52 CEST]:
[..]
>BillN: is there something else that could be given
>to the customer that would satisfy their question
>without revealing what
>Chuck: A lot of ISPs lie about their peerings; he
>runs AMSIX, people claim to have multiple gig to
>the peering exchange, he knows they don't really
>have that much.
>Patrick: but he can look at the peering stats on
>AMSIX--Chuck notes only members can.

Don't know a Chuck at AMS-IX, and he's wrong about port details 
being available only to existing members.  Click on any name at 
http://www.ams-ix.net/connected/ and get the full Monty.


>Patrick: customers ask how many gigs they can send
>to a provider; it's available headroom, so they
>ask their upstreams how much available headroom
>is left.  Most providers are having a lot of
>trouble getting the right capacities to the
>right networks.  The reason many don't
>answer is they don't like the answer they have
>to give.

As a transit provider you're doing something if for the majority of your 
time you are dealing with customer complaints about packet loss.


	-- Niels.

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