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Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 16:47:04 -0700 From: Rick Wesson <wessorh@ar.com> To: Martin Hannigan <hannigan@renesys.com> Cc: nanog@merit.edu In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20060526191624.021d4530@renesys.com> Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu > I am saying I am reading the OARC comments and this is sort of what > it fees like. As much as Gadi seems to appropriate others credit, > Randy Vaugh and him have been doing this work for some time and > deserves some credit so I'd say "have you spoken to them about how > to make their report better" yet instead of "create more". Yes, we have worked with Gati and Randy Vaugh; infact randy helped me out today; thanks randy! There is a difference in how Randy/Gati collect data and how we collect data. The stuff we publish are from numerous dns based realtime blacklists and spam traps we run. Other folks black-hole botnets and capture data. We both come up with a dataset that overlaps but we don't yet know by how much. So our data is another view using a different methodology and isn't supposed to be "better" but confirming of where the problem is and estimates of its magnitude. -rick
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