[90248] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: MEDIA: ICANN rejects .xxx domain
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Martin Hannigan)
Fri May 12 02:28:46 2006
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 02:28:10 -0400
To: Jim Popovitch <jimpop@yahoo.com>, nanog@nanog.org
From: Martin Hannigan <hannigan@renesys.com>
In-Reply-To: <446429B3.6050509@yahoo.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
At 02:22 AM 5/12/2006, Jim Popovitch wrote:
>Fred Baker wrote:
>>On May 11, 2006, at 8:42 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote:
>>
>>>Why not just plain ole hostnames like nanog, www.nanog, mail.nanog
>>For the same reason DNS was created in the first place. You will
>>recall that we actually HAD a hostname file that we traded around...
>
>Let's not go backwards now.... ;-)
>
>Note: I didn't advocate replacing DNS with host files. I'll attempt
>to clarify: If X number of DNS servers can server Y number of TLDs,
>why can't X number of completely re-designed DNS servers handle just
>root domain names without a TLD.
>
>Examples:
>
> www.microsoft
> smtp.microsoft
> www.google
> www.yahoo
> mail.yahoo
>
>Why have a TLD when for most of the world:
>
> www.cnn.CO.UK is forwarded to www.cnn.COM
>
> www.microsoft.NET is forwarded to www.microsoft.COM
>
> www.google.NET is forwarded to www.google.COM
>
> etc., etc.
>
>There are very few arguments that I've heard for even having TLDs in
>the first place. The most common one was "Businesses will use .COM,
>Networks will use .NET, Organizations and Garden Clubs will use
>.ORG". When in reality Businesses scoop up all the TLDs in their name/interest.
Yes, but that was when you actually wouldn't dare get a .org for
yourself unless
you really were qualified under the guidelines. Same for .net. The
distinctions
have been meaningless for quite some time. They are simply placeholders.
>Why does it matter if your routers and switches are in DNS as
>123.company.NET vrs 123.routers.company
>
>I do understand that today's DNS system was designed with TLDs in
>mind, and probably couldn't just switch over night. But why can't a
>next-gen system be put in place that puts www.microsoft and
>www.google right where they go now whether you use .net, .com, .org,
>or probably any other TLD?
Im having an offline discussion with a list member and I'll ask, why
does it matter if
you have a domain name if a directory can hold everything you need to
know about them
via key words and ip-addrs, NAT's and all?
-M<
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Martin Hannigan (c) 617-388-2663
Renesys Corporation (w) 617-395-8574
Member of Technical Staff Network Operations
hannigan@renesys.com
