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Re: data center space

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jeff Hayward)
Tue Apr 25 11:49:41 2006

Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:49:16 -0400
From: "Jeff Hayward" <jeffhayward@gmail.com>
To: "Jim Popovitch" <jimpop@yahoo.com>
Cc: nanog <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <44493274.8090205@yahoo.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


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On 4/21/06, Jim Popovitch <jimpop@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Five years after 9/11 you would think that people would have located
> business continuity ops much further away (assuming the businesses are
> based in NYC) than NJ.  I'm sure that regulations require them to be x
> miles or in another state.  But all things should considered... even the
> capability for major catastrophic incident(s) to affect primary and
> (nearby) secondary sites.


It's very unlikely that your business needs to plan for something that
affects more than about a 20-mile radius.  Events like earthquake or
hurricane, or even a nuclear disaster, are fairly localized.  For disasters
the optimum separation is about 30 miles*, which lets people who are not
involved in whatever happens to the primary (the other shifts) staff the
alternate in an emergency.  Add in cost of fiber, latency, etc., and 30
miles is just about perfect.

If your business continuity planning is telling folks anything else, I thin=
k
perhaps they're not getting what they think.

* unless it's just 30 miles further down the eq fault line or hurricane pat=
h
:-)  Local conditions change the rule of thumb as to exact
distance/direction.

-- Jeff

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On 4/21/06, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">Jim Popovitch</b> &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:jimpop@yahoo.com">jimpop@yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:<div><span class=3D=
"gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left=
: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1e=
x;">
<br>Five years after 9/11 you would think that people would have located<br=
>business continuity ops much further away (assuming the businesses are<br>=
based in NYC) than NJ.&nbsp;&nbsp;I'm sure that regulations require them to=
 be x<br>
miles or in another state.&nbsp;&nbsp;But all things should considered... e=
ven the<br>capability for major catastrophic incident(s) to affect primary =
and<br>(nearby) secondary sites.</blockquote><div><br>It's very unlikely th=
at your business needs to plan for something that affects more than about a=
 20-mile radius.&nbsp; Events like earthquake or hurricane, or even a nucle=
ar disaster, are fairly localized.&nbsp; For disasters the optimum separati=
on is about 30 miles*, which lets people who are not involved in whatever h=
appens to the primary (the other shifts) staff the alternate in an emergenc=
y.&nbsp; Add in cost of fiber, latency, etc., and 30 miles is just about pe=
rfect.
<br><br>If your business continuity planning is telling folks anything else=
, I think perhaps they're not getting what they think.<br><br>* unless it's=
 just 30 miles further down the eq fault line or hurricane path :-)&nbsp; L=
ocal conditions change the rule of thumb as to exact distance/direction.
<br><br>-- Jeff<br></div><br></div>

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