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Re: Common Carrier Question

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Fergie)
Thu Apr 13 21:39:22 2006

From: "Fergie" <fergdawg@netzero.net>
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 01:36:52 GMT
To: ahebert@pubnix.net
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


Google it.

And you're naive to you think its just VoIP anymore.

The whole, nasty, underlying issue with 'network inequity' is
that it is a bubble in its truest sense -- some infrastructure
simply will not support tens of thousands, etc. unicast streams,
AND also support traditional 'best effort' traffic.

It's the old 'ten pounds of shite in a five pound bag' dilemma.

Somethings gotta give ($) or something's gotta go ($) -- or be
degraded somehow.

Warnings on this were sounded ten (or more) years ago. :-)

- ferg

ps. Funny that -- the complexities of things these days vs.
traditional recurring telco revenue streams. ;-)


-- Alain Hebert <ahebert@pubnix.net> wrote:


   =

Eric Germann wrote:

>Except when an ISP blocks Vonage completely, then they aren't neutral a=
nd it
>is QoS (unless the QoS =3D=3D 0 for VoIP) =

>  =

>
    We (or its just me) might be curious about which ISP did that.

[snip]


--
"Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson
 Engineering Architecture for the Internet
 fergdawg@netzero.net or fergdawg@sbcglobal.net
 ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/


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