[8988] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: UUNET Pulling Peering Agreements & replacing them with charging under non-disclosure?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Scott Yoneyama)
Fri May 2 13:16:20 1997
From: "Scott Yoneyama" <yone@wolfenet.com>
To: <peter@tdi.net>, "Tim Flavin" <tim@i1.net>
Cc: <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 09:45:43 -0700
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Part of the problem here is that UUNet has gotten a little full of =
themselves. And I thought Sprint was bad. Combine that with the fact =
that Bernie Ebbers now has his money grubbing hands on the company and =
it's a bad combo. Gee, a powerful guy from the deep south assumes =
control of a respected institution and exploits it, selling access to =
everything related to it. Sounds oddly familiar!
Scott Yoneyama
Director
Starcom Service Corp.
206-448-4034
206-448-4485 fax
yone@wolfenet.com
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From: Peter <peter@tdi.net>
To: Tim Flavin <tim@i1.net>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Date: Friday, May 02, 1997 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: UUNET Pulling Peering Agreements & replacing them with =
charging under non-disclosure?
Tim Flavin wrote:
>
> If a end user that happens to have choosen connectivity other than =
UUnet
> wants to view the web pages of one of my clients, I've already paid =
UUnet
> to carry that traffic, but now UUnet wants more from the peer to let =
that
> traffic pass to their network. Sounds like being paid twice to carry =
the
> same packets.
>
Dow Jones gathers economic news from around the globe and then sells
that
very same news about 10 ways-- the Wall Street Journal, the Asian Wall
Street Journal, the Wall Street Journal Europe, Dow Jones News
Retrieval,
the National Business Employment Weekly, the WSJ web site, the Dow Jones
News Ticker (if it still exists), Telerate... Have you informed the
president of Dow Jones that if he doesn't start giving away everything
but the WSJ that you're going to cancel your subscription?=20
I encourage you to vote with your dollars, as many others will.
Sounds like the great American way to me.
-peter
PS: Part of the great American way is learning from failure. UU.NET's
success in their endeavor is by no means a sure thing.
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<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT size=3D2>Part of the problem here =
is that UUNet=20
has gotten a little full of themselves. And I thought Sprint was bad. =
Combine=20
that with the fact that Bernie Ebbers now has his money grubbing hands =
on the=20
company and it's a bad combo. Gee, a powerful guy from the deep south =
assumes=20
control of a respected institution and exploits it, selling access to =
everything=20
related to it. Sounds oddly familiar!</FONT></FONT>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT size=3D2>Scott Yoneyama<BR>
Director<BR>
Starcom Service Corp.<BR>
206-448-4034<BR>
206-448-4485 fax<BR>
<A href=3D"mailto:yone@wolfenet.com">yone@wolfenet.com</A></FONT>
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<B>From: </B>Peter <peter@tdi.net><BR>
<B>To: </B>Tim Flavin <tim@i1.net><BR>
<B>Cc: </B>nanog@merit.edu<BR>
<B>Date: </B>Friday, May 02, 1997 8:53 AM<BR>
<B>Subject: </B>Re: UUNET Pulling Peering Agreements & replacing =
them with=20
charging under non-disclosure?<BR>
<BR>
<HTML><BODY><FONT size=3D2>Tim Flavin wrote:<BR>
><BR>
> If a end user that happens to have choosen connectivity other than=20
UUnet<BR>
> wants to view the web pages of one of my clients, I've already paid =
UUnet<BR>
> to carry that traffic, but now UUnet wants more from the peer to =
let=20
that<BR>
> traffic pass to their network. Sounds like being paid twice to =
carry=20
the<BR>
> same packets.<BR>
><BR>
<BR>
Dow Jones gathers economic news from around the globe and then sells<BR>
that<BR>
very same news about 10 ways-- the Wall Street Journal, the Asian =
Wall<BR>
Street Journal, the Wall Street Journal Europe, Dow Jones News<BR>
Retrieval,<BR>
the National Business Employment Weekly, the WSJ web site, the Dow =
Jones<BR>
News Ticker (if it still exists), Telerate... Have you informed =
the<BR>
president of Dow Jones that if he doesn't start giving away =
everything<BR>
but the WSJ that you're going to cancel your subscription? <BR>
<BR>
I encourage you to vote with your dollars, as many others will.<BR>
<BR>
Sounds like the great American way to me.<BR>
<BR>
-peter<BR>
<BR>
PS: Part of the great American way is learning from failure. =
UU.NET's<BR>
success in their endeavor is by no means a sure thing.<BR>
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