[89801] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: IP ranges, re- announcing 'PA space' via BGP, etc
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Patrick W. Gilmore)
Fri Apr 7 07:03:52 2006
In-Reply-To: <20060407090636.GA2036@shekinah.ip.tiscali.net>
Cc: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 07:03:09 -0400
To: nanog@merit.edu
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
On Apr 7, 2006, at 5:06 AM, Alexander Koch wrote:
> I see very often that customers in the US send morespecs all
> over the place, deaggregate whole /14s or such scary crap,
> ask us to accept random stuff out of 4/8 and 8/8 (L3 space)
> by example.
>
> I am practically asking what is (if any) the normal way for
> any of this. I am working by the principle that not everything
> I could do I should do, especially not right away. Is there
> any accepted procedure / policy for anyone to a) announce and
> b) accept (the transit supplier) and have that sanctioned
> formally? Maybe nobody cares, then tell me. ;-)
There is a lot of "nobody cares", but I'm not sure that accounts for
everything you see.
Can you give us some examples so us "dumb Americans" can more
precisely explain the problem? :)
> Coming from Europe where pretty much everyone is RIPE LIR and
> has its own /21 at the least I might not see the problem that
> allegedly some (many) US ISPs do have. Enlighten me.
>
> (And, no, I do not fall for the urban legend that RIPE or ARIN
> are by default evil, clearly not. I do have real- life
> experience that whenever you can rightfully justify even large
> IP assignments you do get it.)
What if you try to justify small assignments?
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TTFN,
patrick