[89627] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Backbone Monitoring Tools
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jon Lyons)
Tue Mar 28 22:28:39 2006
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 19:28:09 -0800 (PST)
From: Jon Lyons <jlyons30@yahoo.com>
To: Ashe Canvar <acanvar@gmail.com>, nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <c6f8c0e90603281607r5f0d66c6r7397f3fddedd9250@mail.gmail.com>
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Do you need generate alerts? Or provide trending information to measure performance?
I said mrtg or rrd because you can create graphs based on the ping repsonse time & packet loss between the datacenters, you could also create a graph showing how long it takes to transfere a file to remote site. Basic mrtg and a few simple scripts and a webserver.
If you need something that alerts you with e-mail/pages, then nagios, but you'll spend a lot of time in setup and trying to export the nagios checks to into a someting that makes pretty graphs if you need that.
I thought the Internap FCP is only for bgp setups, also it doesn't provide the informatoin you're gonna want, at least not that I can tell yet.. :)
Ashe Canvar <acanvar@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the quick responses. Perhaps I should have been more explicit.
I already use "remstats"
(http://remstats.sourceforge.net/release/index.html) for interface b/w
monitoring. I have worked with nagios and openview int he past.
I have an ospf based network. The specific monitoring problem I am
trying to solve is :
1. actively test the currently active path for packet loss and transfer
i.e. draw a latency grid between every datacenter and every other
datacenter
2. actively detect routing changes / failover to redundant paths
using traceroutes
i.e. alert if SFO->CHG->NYC changes to SFO->LXE->HOU->NYC
( link state protocols suck as far as testing backup paths go)
3. actively transfer a fixed file
i.e. draw a datarate grid between every datacenter and every other datacenter
So, I am not looking for a generic graphing/alerting NMS. Does anyone
use a specific tool that is capable of doing this ?
I am in a buy vs. build debate with my boss ;)
Regards,
Ashe.
On 3/28/06, Josh Cheney wrote:
>
> I have had a decent amount of success with Nagios. It is not trivial to
> setup, but once it is up and running, it has always handled our
> dependencies and such very well. Additionally, because it calls external
> programs to do the checks, it is pretty simple to write a script that
> measures whatever value you would like to monitor. As I said before, it
> is a pain to set up initially, but after getting it set up, I couldn't
> be happier with it.
>
> Ashe Canvar wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I want a simple backbone monitor for my 5 datacenters. My "backbone"
> > consists of redundant IPSEC/GRE tunnnels.
> >
> > At the very least I want to ping, traceroute and transfer a small file
> > every few minutes over all IPSEC links. I am sure there are products
> > that do this already, but I am having a hard time finding any.
> >
> > The display format should be noc-friendly. A basic grid with green/red
> > status indicators at the least. Geographical maps a plus.
> >
> > Do most of you use a home grown tool for this monitoring and alerting ?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ashe
> >
> > .
> >
>
> --
> Josh Cheney
> jcheney@mfx.net
> http://www.joshcheney.com
>
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<div>Do you need generate alerts? Or provide trending information to measure performance?</div> <div> </div> <div>I said mrtg or rrd because you can create graphs based on the ping repsonse time & packet loss between the datacenters, you could also create a graph showing how long it takes to transfere a file to remote site. Basic mrtg and a few simple scripts and a webserver. </div> <div> </div> <div>If you need something that alerts you with e-mail/pages, then nagios, but you'll spend a lot of time in setup and trying to export the nagios checks to into a someting that makes pretty graphs if you need that.</div> <div> </div> <div>I thought the Internap FCP is only for bgp setups, also it doesn't provide the informatoin you're gonna want, at least not that I can tell yet.. :)</div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div><BR><BR><B><I>Ashe Canvar <acanvar@gmail.com>
</I></B>
wrote:</div> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><BR>Thanks for the quick responses. Perhaps I should have been more explicit.<BR><BR>I already use "remstats"<BR>(http://remstats.sourceforge.net/release/index.html) for interface b/w<BR>monitoring. I have worked with nagios and openview int he past.<BR><BR>I have an ospf based network. The specific monitoring problem I am<BR>trying to solve is :<BR><BR>1. actively test the currently active path for packet loss and transfer<BR>i.e. draw a latency grid between every datacenter and every other<BR>datacenter<BR><BR>2. actively detect routing changes / failover to redundant paths<BR>using traceroutes<BR>i.e. alert if SFO->CHG->NYC changes to SFO->LXE->HOU->NYC<BR>( link state protocols suck as far as testing backup paths go)<BR><BR>3. actively transfer a fixed file<BR>i.e. draw a datarate grid between every datacenter and every other datacenter<BR><BR
><BR>So,
I am not looking for a generic graphing/alerting NMS. Does anyone<BR>use a specific tool that is capable of doing this ?<BR><BR>I am in a buy vs. build debate with my boss ;)<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Ashe.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>On 3/28/06, Josh Cheney <JCHENEY@MFX.NET>wrote:<BR>><BR>> I have had a decent amount of success with Nagios. It is not trivial to<BR>> setup, but once it is up and running, it has always handled our<BR>> dependencies and such very well. Additionally, because it calls external<BR>> programs to do the checks, it is pretty simple to write a script that<BR>> measures whatever value you would like to monitor. As I said before, it<BR>> is a pain to set up initially, but after getting it set up, I couldn't<BR>> be happier with it.<BR>><BR>> Ashe Canvar wrote:<BR>> > Hi All,<BR>> ><BR>> > I want a simple backbone monitor for my 5 datacenters. My "backbone"<BR>> > consists of redundant IPSEC/GRE tunnnels.<BR
>>
><BR>> > At the very least I want to ping, traceroute and transfer a small file<BR>> > every few minutes over all IPSEC links. I am sure there are products<BR>> > that do this already, but I am having a hard time finding any.<BR>> ><BR>> > The display format should be noc-friendly. A basic grid with green/red<BR>> > status indicators at the least. Geographical maps a plus.<BR>> ><BR>> > Do most of you use a home grown tool for this monitoring and alerting ?<BR>> ><BR>> > Regards,<BR>> > Ashe<BR>> ><BR>> > .<BR>> ><BR>><BR>> --<BR>> Josh Cheney<BR>> jcheney@mfx.net<BR>> http://www.joshcheney.com<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><p>
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