[89317] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Italy orders ISPs to block sites
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven M. Bellovin)
Tue Mar 7 13:08:28 2006
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 13:05:23 -0500
From: "Steven M. Bellovin" <smb@cs.columbia.edu>
To: Mehmet Akcin <mehmet@nic.pr>
Cc: christopher.morrow@verizonbusiness.com, nanog@merit.edu
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On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 13:53:40 +0000
Mehmet Akcin <mehmet@nic.pr> wrote:
>
> Well, I can't blame Italy for trying to enforce their laws, but maybe
> can give them a better idea.
>
> Maybe instead of all those ACLs, other type of Blocks, DNS
> removals,etc.. Governments should more go to the direction of making
> agreement on the credit card companies which automatically will charge a
> tax when somebody is using those websites.
>
> I am sure almost all the transactions are thru debit account transfers
> or credit cards such as VISA, MC, or AMEX and it's not hard to find out
> the bank accounts of the companies which are doing gambling. So instead
> of trying to block something that the real mean is the FREEDOM (we call
> it Internet) go and push the banks to enforce the laws.
>
Yes, and the US government does that, too. It sometimes comes down to
who has a bigger lobby, the bankers or the ISPs. Note also that banks
make money directly on each such transaction; ISPs don't.
