[89298] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Italy orders ISPs to block sites
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Tue Mar 7 03:52:55 2006
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 00:50:58 -0800
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
To: Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com>
Cc: "Christopher L. Morrow" <christopher.morrow@verizonbusiness.com>,
"Marco d'Itri" <md@linux.it>, NANOG <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <bb0e440a0603070005h49485b28u408c2d90c682a6e3@mail.gmail.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
--On March 7, 2006 1:35:05 PM +0530 Suresh Ramasubramanian
<ops.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 3/7/06, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:
>>
>> Singapore seems to force all of their ISPs to send all HTTP requests
>> through a proxy that has a set of rules defining sites you are not
>> allowed to visit.
>>
>
> As does (for example) the UAE, and China. But not Italy.
>
> So this is quite moot, I expect.
>
> Also - having all local cable / broadband / dialup providers do
> something like this would cover the vast majority of internet users in
> the country .. not too many people or companies are going to be
> running their own resolvers, at least in a small country like Italy.
>
I guess that depends. Afterall, all you need to run your own resolver
is a copy of bind and linux, macos, or windows to run it on. A caching
recursive resolver is pretty easy to set up. If that becomes what it
takes to get around government regulations, I suspect gamblers who
really want to gamble will learn fairly quickly.
> The numbers are likely to be trivially small as compared to the number
> of people just using their ISP resolvers. So a fake zone loaded into
> the resolvers redirecting these banned sites elsewhere should do just
> fine, I guess.
>
Today, true. Tomorrow, depends on the motivation level of the affected
audience and the publication level of the trivial solution to the currently
prescribed method of control.
Owen
> --
> Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.lists@gmail.com)