[89220] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: shim6 @ NANOG
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Stephen Sprunk)
Sun Mar 5 17:39:55 2006
From: "Stephen Sprunk" <stephen@sprunk.org>
To: "Joe Abley" <jabley@isc.org>, "Owen DeLong" <owen@delong.com>
Cc: "North American Noise and Off-topic Gripes" <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 16:03:42 -0600
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
Thus spake "Joe Abley" <jabley@isc.org>
> Was it not the lack of any scalable routing solution after many years of
> trying that led people to resort to endpoint mobility in end systems, à
> la shim6?
Who exactly has been trying to find scalable routing solutions?
IPv6 advocates have been pushing a no-PI model for over a decade because
that's what ISPs told them to do. When they found end users didn't like
that, they went off and developed what has become shim6 as a poor apology.
There has never been any significant work done on replacing CIDR with
something that scales better. Every such proposal I've seen has been
ignored or brushed aside by folks who've been doing CIDR for their entire
careers and refuse to even consider that anything else might be better.
All this time, energy, and thought spent on shim6 would have been better
spent on a scalable IDR solution. Luckily, we still have another decade or
so to come up with something.
S
Stephen Sprunk "Stupid people surround themselves with smart
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