[89206] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Geoff Huston)
Sun Mar 5 14:57:26 2006
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 06:39:14 +1100
To: Marshall Eubanks <tme@multicasttech.com>,
Kurt Erik Lindqvist <kurtis@kurtis.pp.se>
From: Geoff Huston <gih@apnic.net>
Cc: Kevin Day <toasty@dragondata.com>, Joe Abley <jabley@isc.org>,
NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <59346748-54DC-4D2B-AFD4-E342875FD481@multicasttech.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
At 07:37 AM 4/03/2006, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
>On Mar 3, 2006, at 5:55 AM, Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>On 2 mar 2006, at 06.16, Kevin Day wrote:
>>
>>>No, I'm just trying to be practical here... Estimates of IPv4 pool
>>>exhaustion range from Mid 2008 (Tony Hain's ARIN presentation) to
>>>roughly 2012 (Geoff Huston's ARIN presentation). Sooner if a mad
>>>dash for space starts happening (or isn't happening already).
>>>
>>>Does anyone here really believe that there is time for:
>>
>>So what I think we might need (that I wrote in an internet-draft
>>some years ago) is the following things in exactly this order :
>>
>>0. PI space with an artifically high barrier on entry yet available
>>when needed (read cost+administration=LIR or equiv.).
>>1. Ducttape ala shim6
>>2. One of breakthrough in graph-theory or a completely new
>>addressing/routing paradigm. Most like the latter.
>
>
>I will bet anyone reading this $ 20 USD right now that what will
>actually happen is
>the development of a spot market in IPv4 address space.
That was part of the speculative component of my report at the time, and,
no, I won't be lining up to take your bet - I agree with you that such a
market is pretty much an inevitably.
Of course you could always start a futures market right now!
cheers,
Geoff
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