[89189] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Stephen Sprunk)
Sun Mar 5 02:23:48 2006
From: "Stephen Sprunk" <stephen@sprunk.org>
To: "Mark Newton" <newton@internode.com.au>
Cc: "North American Noise and Off-topic Gripes" <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 01:20:05 -0600
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
Thus spake "Mark Newton" <newton@internode.com.au>
> On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 09:50:55PM +0100, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
> > On 3-mrt-2006, at 21:43, Brandon Ross wrote:
> > >What's worse is that unless people start changing their tune soon
> > >and make the ownership of IP space official, this will be a black
> > >market (like it is now, just much bigger).
> >
> > But that will end as soon as interdomain routing is protected by
> > certificates given out by the RIRs.
>
> No, it'll end as soon as those certificates become mandatory.
>
> Which will, in my humble estimation, happen at some point near the
> year 4523.
I agree that RIR certs will never become truly mandatory, but it'll be a
Good Idea(tm) to have one to prevent hijacking.
However, some bright accountant at a big telco is going to figure out it's
not RIR certs they want to see -- they'll want to issue their own certs to
squeeze revenue from non-customers. "You want to buy transit from our peers
instead of us? That's great. But, if you want reliable access to our
customers from your PI block, you have to pay $100/mo for a routing slot."
Bingo, the swamp problem becomes self-correcting.
S
Stephen Sprunk "Stupid people surround themselves with smart
CCIE #3723 people. Smart people surround themselves with
K5SSS smart people who disagree with them." --Aaron Sorkin
