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Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Thu Mar 2 16:28:17 2006

Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 13:27:35 -0800
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
To: Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch@muada.com>,
	Michael.Dillon@btradianz.com
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <BF73C6E8-1EFE-4EDF-9DC3-F584B53EE9C8@muada.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


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--On March 2, 2006 3:15:59 PM +0100 Iljitsch van Beijnum
<iljitsch@muada.com> wrote:

> 
> On 2-mrt-2006, at 14:49, Michael.Dillon@btradianz.com wrote:
> 
>> Clearly, it would be extremely unwise for an ISP or
>> an enterprise to rely on shim6 for multihoming. Fortunately
>> they won't have to do this because the BGP multihoming
>> option will be available.
> 
> I guess you have a better crystal ball than I do.
> 
> One thing is very certain: today, a lot of people who have their own  PI
> or even PA block with IPv4, don't qualify for one with IPv6. While  it's
> certainly possible that the rules will be changed such that more  people
> can get an IPv6 PI or PA block, it is EXTREMELY unlikely that  this will
> become as easy as with IPv4.
> 
Possibly, but, if that is true, then, to that extent, it will delay or
prevent the adoption of IPv6 by those people.

> Ergo: some people who multihome with BGP in IPv4 today won't be able  to
> do the same with IPv6. And if you manage to get a PI or PA block  you
> will very likely find that deaggregating won't work nearly as  well with
> IPv6 as it does with IPv4.
> 
And why would those people consider migrating to IPv6?

> So learn to love shim6 or help create something better. Complaining
> isn't going to solve anything.

I'm trying to create something better.  I doubt many people in the
operational
community will ever learn to love shim6.

Owen


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