[89093] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Iljitsch van Beijnum)
Thu Mar 2 09:52:14 2006
In-Reply-To: <02dc01c63de1$64887c00$6b01a8c0@ssprunk>
Cc: North American Noise and Off-topic Gripes <nanog@merit.edu>
From: Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch@muada.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 15:51:43 +0100
To: Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
Man, I hope I never become as cynical as you.
On 2-mrt-2006, at 11:09, Stephen Sprunk wrote:
> Why is it even remotely rational that a corporate admin trust 100k+
> hosts infested with worms, virii, spam, malware, etc. to handle
> multihoming decisions?
They trust those hosts to do congestion control too, which is even
more important.
> Especially when we don't even have a sample of working code today?
The IAB goes out of its way to solicit input on ongoing work, and now
you whine about lack of working code?
> Now, some may take that as a sign the IETF needs to figure out how
> to handle 10^6 BGP prefixes... I'm not sure we'll be there for a
> few years with IPv6, but sooner or later we will, and someone needs
> to figure out what the Internet is going to look like at that point.
It won't look good. ISPs will have to buy much more expensive
routers. At some point, people will start to filter out routes that
they feel they can live without and universal reachability will be a
thing of the past.
It will be just like NAT: every individual problem will be solvable,
but as an industry, or even a society, we'll be wasting enormous
amounts of time, energy and money just because we didn't want to bite
the bullet earlier on.