[89034] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joe Abley)
Wed Mar 1 10:46:15 2006
In-Reply-To: <ED8CD088-F42A-429D-B2B7-540612F4E7C3@sackheads.org>
Cc: Christian Kuhtz <kuhtzch@corp.earthlink.net>,
Daniel Golding <dgolding@burtongroup.com>,
Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch@muada.com>,
NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
From: Joe Abley <jabley@isc.org>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 10:45:18 -0500
To: John Payne <john@sackheads.org>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
On 1-Mar-2006, at 10:33, John Payne wrote:
> On Mar 1, 2006, at 1:52 AM, Joe Abley wrote:
>
>> Shim6 also has some features which aren't possible with the swamp
>> -- for example, it allows *everybody* to multi-home, down to
>> people whose entire infrastructure consists of an individual
>> device, and to do so in a scaleable way.
>
> Only if *everybody* has a shim6 capable stack...
Not quite -- the practical usefulness of the multi-homing increases
with the deployment of shim6-capable stacks. You could imagine a
threshold of server and host upgrades which would provide useful
multi-homing a good proportion of the time without universal deployment.
If Linux and the currently-supported variants of Windows were to be
updated to support shim6, and we waited through three or four widely-
publicised security vulnerabilities which required OS/kernel
upgrades, perhaps that would be sufficient deployment for the
benefits of shim6 to be felt, most of the time. My hands are waving
again, of course.
I feel fairly certain I have exceeded some kind of unenforced posting
threshold to this list in the last twelve hours. I will try hard to
be quiet for a while, now :-)
Joe
