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Re: and here are some answers [was: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware]

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com)
Tue Feb 21 01:02:57 2006

Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:02:31 +0000
From: bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com
To: Rob Thomas <robt@cymru.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.62.0602201946260.20788@qentba.nf23028.arg>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 07:49:04PM -0600, Rob Thomas wrote:
> 
> Hey, Bill.
> 
> ] 	wht is the mean-time-to-infection for a stock windows XP system
> ] 	when plugged intot he net?... 2-5minutes?  you can't get patches
> ] 	down that fast.
> 
> The same case can be made for Linux and Unix-based web servers with
> vulnerable PHP-based tools.  There's also a large number of poorly
> configured devices such as routers with easily guessed passwords,
> overly permissive DNS name servers, etc.
> 
> It's not simply a Windows problem.
> 
> Thanks,
> Rob.

	true enough.  but "auntie jane" doesn't have linux/unix web server(s)
	or router(s) (other than the one provided by her ISP and managed by them)
	and has zero clue about overly permissive <service> machines.

	me thinks it is a -much- larger pool that gets taken advantage of
	wiht a much higher threshold of ignorance about problems. 

--bill


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