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Re: a radical proposal (Re: protocols that don't meet the

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (James R. Cutler)
Thu Feb 16 14:43:19 2006

Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:42:49 -0500
To: nanog@merit.edu
From: "James R. Cutler" <james.cutler@consultant.com>
In-Reply-To: <20060216184132.GA23042@1-4-5.net>
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Since meeting Yakov years ago, I have always tried to teach network 
designers to consider addressing and topology together.

It hasn't always worked.  Many don't care about network population 
estimates and demographics, some don't recognize those terms, and, a 
few just want enough Class C networks to get their job done for the day.

         Cutler

At 2/16/2006 10:41 AM -0800, David Meyer wrote:
         One of the first things I ever learned from Yakov (at the
         first IETF I ever attended):

           "Addressing can follow topology or topology can follow
            addressing. Choose one."

         He has since pointed out that this may not be strictly
         true when considering VPN technologies.

         Dave

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James R. Cutler
james.cutler@consultant.com

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Since meeting Yakov years ago, I have always tried to teach network
designers to consider addressing and topology together. <br><br>
It hasn't always worked.&nbsp; Many don't care about network population
estimates and demographics, some don't recognize those terms, and, a few
just want enough Class C networks to get their job done for the
day.<br><br>
<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>Cutler<br>
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At 2/16/2006 10:41 AM -0800, David Meyer wrote:<br>
<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>One of the
first things I ever learned from Yakov (at the<br>
<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>first IETF
I ever attended):<br><br>
<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>&nbsp;
&quot;Addressing can follow topology or topology can follow<br>
<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>
&nbsp;&nbsp; addressing. Choose one.&quot;<br><br>
<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>He has
since pointed out that this may not be strictly<br>
<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>true when
considering VPN technologies.<br><br>
<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>Dave<br>
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<font face="Courier, Courier">-<br>
James R. Cutler<br>
james.cutler@consultant.com<br>
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